Why didn't you kick stop the laithe before you tried to remove the braided tube?

Common sense tells you that on machinery like that, if anything, AND I DO MEAN ANYTHING needs to be removed or in any way stops you from carrying out what you need to do, you stop the machine first. And that's not H&S b0110cks, that's basic 'stop yourself from being killed or injured.'

I even learned that in school in CDT lessons. If our teacher saw anyone operating a laithe without removing their school tie first, he would beat the shiit out of them, because at the end of the day, it was HIM who would cop the flak for it if anything bad happened.

If he'd have turned it off sooner, it wouldn't have happened at all.

Good shout. He could do a rap about the dangers of sticking your hand into a moving machine entitled [iHow My Hand Ended Up Like Jeremy Beadle's[/i.

Every cloud has a silver lining. Can you imagine if his damaged hand is the one that he uses to write his CV's with? What a travesty.

Nothing that can't be overcome with a bit of creativity. He could present his CV as a video of him performing a beat poem describing his positive qualities, with Damo on the bongos.

In the last 3 years have spent 6 weeks unemployed so why would i contact damo. A did as have been trained to do.

The entire workforce from you, your supervisor, his boss and all the way up to the factory owner have a statutory duty to protect your health and safety.
One of their obligations is to prevent access to dangerous parts of machinery. That doesn't just mean telling you not to touch it means physically preventing you from doing so. The HSEs attitude to this means high risk machines have to have interlocking guards, I.e guard not in place the machine won't operate. Its also not a defence for them to say that the machine needs to be unguarded to work - they will simply say safety takes precedence and to find another way of making the product. The only way you are likely to be at fault is if you deliberately ignored safety procedures.
Also, if you're off work for more than three days the injury has to be reported to the HSE. There are still plenty of firms out there who gamble with the safety of their workfor
ce. If I were I would make notes of everything that has happened for your meeting and take someone knowledgeable with you if possible. If the firm is at fault, the HSE will be on your side and they're not to be taken lightly.

Quintuple post - stupid Blackberry

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Not now – sorted.

Quote: Mintball "Not now – sorted. Cheers. Here's a case that sounds similar: www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-yh-24410.htm

Quote: Mintball "Not now – sorted. Cheers. Here's a case that sounds similar: www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-yh-24410.htm

1. You need to know that employers across the land up on employee safety, every day, all the time. Claims arising are almost an industry and it is mainly these that have served to slowly (but very significantly) increase employee safety (insurance premium driven, and an increasing risk assessment culture). I can assure you that thousands of employers ranging from careless through dolt to downright couldn't-give-a-shyite continue to exist and I think always will.

2. The possibility that an employee may be negligent is precisely one a good employer is well aware of, and takes into account.

But if your gaffer says "Do this, but stand at this side, so if it grabs your arm you can hit the stop button" it's all very well for you to be clever and say he was negligent for following the instruction, but it takes some courage to challenge your employer, all the more so in this economic climate, and personally I can entirely understand why someone worried about a risk may opt to shut up and take the risk of injury instead of speaking up and losing their job.

Oh, and it's "kerching" because:
(a) the machine was obviously dangerous in that configuration
(b) the specific risk of what happened happening was as plain as the nose on your face, and worse still, was seemingly specifically known to the employer
(c) it could easily have been eliminated (stop the machine, do your taping, restart the machine).
Open and shut.

Oh, and it fookin well SHOULD be "kerching", to teach assholes like this employer, who pay scant or no regard to the specific regulations they are legally obliged to apply, and thus are happy that their employees should run the risk of injury, a lesson. (And as Mintball points out, in appropriately serious cases, they can be prosecuted too).

Was there a whooshing sound as you typed that?

i'd ask to see the risk assesment for that machine before anything else?

HSE would ask the same thing, any safety guidelines, training and PPE etc required should be in that report?