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Quote: BiffasBoys "Thanks, but it's common sense really. Lehmann Bros didn't cause the financial crisis. There wasn't a global crisis either. HTH

Just imagine how simpler it all could have been if, as an example, interest rates had risen as they normally would to dampen borrowing & prevent the market overheating.'"



Brilliant, I'm going to start a thread about the holocaust and I want you to be my first contributor.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "... There wasn't a global financial crisis.'"


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And there were no world wars either.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "Thanks, but it's common sense really. Lehmann Bros didn't cause the financial crisis. There wasn't a global crisis either. HTH'"

Who did cause the crisis if not banks taking unjustifiable risks with other people's money?
Oh yes, sorry, it was that nasty Gordon Brown wasn't it, who created the US housing bubble that burst and led to the need for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to be taken into Federal Ownership, it was Gordon Brown who lent immense sums in sub-prime mortgages across the US, it was Gordon Brown who packaged them up into financial instruments and sold them on, it was all his fault.
It was Gordon Brown who created property bubbles in Spain and Ireland.
It was all Gordon Brown's fault.

Except it wasn't ... and you and I both know it wasn't.

Gordon Brown was indeed guilty of not regulating the banks sufficiently in the UK ... but let us not forget that it was not he who deregulated the banks in the Big Bang. Let us also not forget that he was roundly criticised by the Tories that he was regulating too tightly, the same Tories who, now in power, have done feck-all apart from a bit of cosmetic shuffling to improve that regulation.

You say there wasn't a global crisis ... I would agree that wasn't a crisis in global banking (i.e. only Western banking and institutions failed or needed bailing-out) ... but it was quite definitely global in its effects ... even China's growth rate was slowed by it as its greatest exports markets in the West bought less from them.

Quote: BiffasBoys "Just imagine how simpler it all could have been if, as an example, interest rates had risen as they normally would to dampen borrowing & prevent the market overheating.'"

As you only deal in facts icon_lol.gif
Oh, and could you let Mark Carney know, he thinks it's his job.

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Don't be ridiculous, in 1997 he was only two years old how could he be expected to know any of that ?

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You got any details of this global financial crisis? How many countries are there & how many were left in crisis by those nasty people at Lehmann Bros who seem to be the cause of absolutely everything. The Margaret Thatcher of the banking system?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Who did cause the crisis if not banks taking unjustifiable risks with other people's money?
Oh yes, sorry, it was that nasty Gordon Brown wasn't it, who created the US housing bubble that burst and led to the need for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to be taken into Federal Ownership, it was Gordon Brown who lent immense sums in sub-prime mortgages across the US, it was Gordon Brown who packaged them up into financial instruments and sold them on, it was all his fault.
It was Gordon Brown who created property bubbles in Spain and Ireland.
It was all Gordon Brown's fault.
o do with the UK.
Except it wasn't ... and you and I both know it wasn't.

Quote: El Barbudo "The banks worked within the regulatory framework they were bound by. How would you define unjustifiable. What is your fascination with the U.S. It's got nothing to do with the UK. The problems in the UK are entirely the fault of the last Labour government & it's first Chancellor of the Exchequer'"


Gordon Brown was indeed guilty of not regulating the banks sufficiently in the UK ... but let us not forget that it was not he who deregulated the banks in the Big Bang. Let us also not forget that he was roundly criticised by the Tories that he was regulating too tightly, the same Tories who, now in power, have done feck-all apart from a bit of cosmetic shuffling to improve that regulation.

Quote: El Barbudo "Sufficiently? He stripped away regulation & controls that were already in place. He set up the useless FSA. It doesn't matter one scintilla what anyone said, it's what he did that brought the crash in the UK.'"


You say there wasn't a global crisis ... I would agree that wasn't a crisis in global banking (i.e. only Western banking and institutions failed or needed bailing-out) ... but it was quite definitely global in its effects ... even China's growth rate was slowed by it as its greatest exports markets in the West bought less from them.

Quote: El Barbudo "Glad we've sorted that one out. What proportion of China's output was for export and how much did that fall? How about a comparison in the Eurozone?'"


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Quote: El Barbudo "
Quote: El Barbudo "The banks worked within the regulatory framework they were bound by. How would you define unjustifiable. What is your fascination with the U.S. It's got nothing to do with the UK. The problems in the UK are entirely the fault of the last Labour government & it's first Chancellor of the Exchequer <etc etc>...'"

Riiiiight ... the economic crisis in the UK that precipitated recession in the UK is/was not part of the same economic crisis that precipitated the recession across the Western economies in the same way at the same moment ... OK, got it 9.82177734375:5
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