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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What are you on about - or what are you on?'"
Planet Earth.
Quote: Sal Paradise "When people are struggling it takes all their energy and will to keep their head above water, they are shopping in a supermarket because that is all they can afford. Their not too bothered whether the multiple offers one type of apple or ten as long as the price is within their means. It is only when we reach a certain level/status/position which will be unaffected by their change in view - that they are to consider the wider perspective. Simple Maslow really. Look in the mirror you are that person. How much of your hard earned salary would/have you be/been prepared to give up so somebody down the chain of command could have more?[./quote]
What the fücking hell are you on?
Who the f*** mentioned supermarkets? I didn't.
Quote: Sal Paradise "... We are basically animals with animal instincts - our behaviour is similar to what you see in the jungle. One of the reasons meritocracy/capitalism works is because it appeals to our inbuilt instincts - the best hunter will have the most food, best choice of mate etc...'"
Again, you're spouting bøolløcks instead of answers to the questions.
Quote: Sal Paradise "I don't need to know what you earn to know you are comfortable - you expose your whole existence and status in the posts on this very board....'"
Oh wowser! I'm so horrified! Sal "Real World" Paradise 'thinks' (I use the word generously) he knows something.
Quote: Sal Paradise "... You wonder why I have little truck with your position? Your biggest worry is whether the local butcher will have twenty different cuts of Beef available and whether it is organic? You think somebody on minimum wage gives a poop about whether their food is organic as long as they have some. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You talk the talk but you certainly will never walk the walk...'" '"
Carry on inventing things, sunshine, because I have never suggested this anywhere. You're a fantasist, who needs your fantasies in order to provide some sort of 'evidence' for your claims.
Now if you want to stop looking like an idiot, feel free – and answer questions and provide real, meaningful evidence to support your claims.
Otherwise, you're just another little troll with nit an ounce.
Actually I suspect not: I think you're probably just a greedy, selfish individual who is trying to excuse not having an ounce of morality in their body.
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| Quote: Mintball "Planet Earth.
Carry on inventing things, sunshine, because I have never suggested this anywhere. You're a fantasist, who needs your fantasies in order to provide some sort of 'evidence' for your claims.
Now if you want to stop looking like an idiot, feel free – and answer questions and provide real, meaningful evidence to support your claims.
Otherwise, you're just another little troll with nit an ounce.
Actually I suspect not
So, once again your "evidence" is petty personal abuse - to a guy who wrote simple common-sense stuff. You like to talk about "debate" but do you ever when people question your views?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "if interest rates rise will investors not buy in to the pound?'"
They will buy sterling denominated assets that pay higher interest rates, so the demand for the pound will go up because they need to convert their currency in to pounds to buy them, and the exchange rate of the pound will appreciate.
Double edged sword really. Will harm UK exports because our goods will be more competitive, but it will bear down on inflation in the UK because anything that requires imported goods as part of the production process will become cheaper.
Danger is imports will also start becoming comparatively cheaper than domestic produced goods so even in the home market we could lose market share to imports that are bought more easily with a stronger pound.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "They will buy sterling denominated assets that pay higher interest rates, so the demand for the pound will go up because they need to convert their currency in to pounds to buy them, and the exchange rate of the pound will appreciate.
Double edged sword really. Will harm UK exports because our goods will be more competitive, but it will bear down on inflation in the UK because anything that requires imported goods as part of the production process will become cheaper.
Danger is imports will also start becoming comparatively cheaper than domestic produced goods so even in the home market we could lose market share to imports that are bought more easily with a stronger pound.'"
As we import more than we export that would have a positive effect on inflation - although it will affect tourism etc. Given what we export seems quite specialist i.e. not mass market will the rise in the pound have a huge impact on these goods?
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| Quote: Mintball "Planet Earth.
Carry on inventing things, sunshine, because I have never suggested this anywhere. You're a fantasist, who needs your fantasies in order to provide some sort of 'evidence' for your claims.
Now if you want to stop looking like an idiot, feel free – and answer questions and provide real, meaningful evidence to support your claims.
Otherwise, you're just another little troll with nit an ounce.
Actually I suspect not
Nobody is inventing anything just exposing you for what you are - I am not the one looking an idiot here - it is you.
You bring "Spirit Level" as fact - it isn't its a theory - do you actually know the difference?
You don't anything about me yet you feel it is OK to pronounce on my personality - yet you cry wolf when somebody does this to you?
You talk about answering questions - you never answer any, you spout nonsense - you claimed I said nobody should have a pay rise because I haven't had one - I asked you to show me where I said that, I am still waiting?
You keep raising the point about care workers and expenses. What I said was most firms would pay out of pocket expenses through a defined expenses policy, at the firm I work at somebody buys milk and coffee and they claim it back through the expenses process - you turned that into all care workers have expenses accounts!!
This is what you do you produce theory as fact, you read what you want things to say not what they actually say, you bring things back from months ago but somehow find it distasteful when the tables are turned, you are a probably a hypocritical bully who like all bullies can't take it when the tables are turned.
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| In defence of la Mint,
rlrl I've found since putting up this photo in the front window, we have never been burgled!
Credit where it's due!
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| Which reminds me, what happened to Minty's better half?
They were in a competition at one time to be the first to a million posts.
Where be you tb?
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| Good to see George Osborne named Briton of the Year by the Times.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Good to see George Osborne named Briton of the Year by the Times.'"
Personally, I'd have dear old Godfrey Bloom before George Osborne, who I think has been extremely fortunate with his growth policies.
That said, if the predictions by the leading economist Dr Ros Altmann are anywhere near the mark, with [i "growth rising by 5 per cent, real earnings increasing by nearly 3 per cent, inflation holding at about 2 per cent, and employment at its highest since records began, falling towards – or even below – the 7 per cent level by the end of 2014".[/i Then I'm afraid there will be much hand wringing by the usual suspects on here, and the Tories will be a shoe in come Election Time.
With Churchill being acknowledged as the Greatest Briton of All Time, I think we can look forward with confidence that the natural order of things has been restored after the miss spent years of Blair's Britain.
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| Quote: rumpelstiltskin "
That said, if the predictions by the leading economist Dr Ros Altmann are anywhere near the mark, with [i "growth rising by 5 per cent, real earnings increasing by nearly 3 per cent, inflation holding at about 2 per cent, and employment at its highest since records began, falling towards – or even below – the 7 per cent level by the end of 2014".[/i Then I'm afraid there will be much hand wringing by the usual suspects on here, and the Tories will be a shoe in come Election Time.
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Those things could well happen in a consumer-spending generated boom year in 2014 coupled with tax rebates and election bribes.
It not what the Tories were hoping for of course as it goes against everything that austerity stands for and there will be a price to pay in 2016, but still...
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Good to see George Osborne named Briton of the Year by the Times.'"
Have you read the reasoning behind their decision.
Talk about the job description being written for the candidate
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Good to see George Osborne named Briton of the Year by the Times.'"
Really why do think that - if he is the Briton of the year we should be very worried about our performance as a nation.
Man is an incompetent!!
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Quote: Sal Paradise "As we import more than we export that would have a positive effect on inflation - although it will affect tourism etc. Given what we export seems quite specialist i.e. not mass market will the rise in the pound have a huge impact on these goods?'"
There was an article in the Economist early this year about this: www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... dium-sized
It suggested that when the pound falls, its good news for small firm exporters that tend to manufacture at home and sell abroad, but had less effect on large firm exporters that are likely to have some parts of their operations based overseas close to their customers, so when the pound falls their costs in overseas operations rise.
So when the pound rises it should be the opposite effect: the small firms that manufacture at home will find it harder to export, but the large firm exporters will not be affected as much.
Basically if you are a global firm you are less likely to be affected by currency fluctuations for good or bad.
The danger I see of a rising pound is what will happen to our trade balance. The most recent figures said we have our biggest trade deficit since 1989. A year or so ago the Coalition were always talking about "rebalancing the economy": from imports to exports, from London to the regions, from services to manufacturing, from consumption and government spending to investment etc but this is one thing that is definitely not happening in terms of the recent good news on growth. We are not seeing those rebalancing effects in fact on some of those measures we are becoming more unbalanced.
If the pound rises then its good news for families struggling with flatlining wages and the cost of living but the flipside is the reason its good news is because it means imported goods become cheaper (hence it bearing down on inflation), this means our imports are likely to rise and our trade balance could get even worse. Given that a trade deficit is always financed by accruing debt to the rest of the world, this is not a healthy situation.
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Quote: Sal Paradise "As we import more than we export that would have a positive effect on inflation - although it will affect tourism etc. Given what we export seems quite specialist i.e. not mass market will the rise in the pound have a huge impact on these goods?'"
There was an article in the Economist early this year about this: www.economist.com/news/britain/2 ... dium-sized
It suggested that when the pound falls, its good news for small firm exporters that tend to manufacture at home and sell abroad, but had less effect on large firm exporters that are likely to have some parts of their operations based overseas close to their customers, so when the pound falls their costs in overseas operations rise.
So when the pound rises it should be the opposite effect: the small firms that manufacture at home will find it harder to export, but the large firm exporters will not be affected as much.
Basically if you are a global firm you are less likely to be affected by currency fluctuations for good or bad.
The danger I see of a rising pound is what will happen to our trade balance. The most recent figures said we have our biggest trade deficit since 1989. A year or so ago the Coalition were always talking about "rebalancing the economy": from imports to exports, from London to the regions, from services to manufacturing, from consumption and government spending to investment etc but this is one thing that is definitely not happening in terms of the recent good news on growth. We are not seeing those rebalancing effects in fact on some of those measures we are becoming more unbalanced.
If the pound rises then its good news for families struggling with flatlining wages and the cost of living but the flipside is the reason its good news is because it means imported goods become cheaper (hence it bearing down on inflation), this means our imports are likely to rise and our trade balance could get even worse. Given that a trade deficit is always financed by accruing debt to the rest of the world, this is not a healthy situation.
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| Quote: General Zod. "The so called economists of the mainstream media are thick - just like you..'"
Nice formation of an argument!
Quote: General Zod. ""George Osborne likes to say that the UK government’s cost of borrowing (the yield on gilts – government IOUs) is low because investors are impressed with his running of the economy.
This is complete and utter tripe.
Gilt yields are low because the Bank of England now owns about a third of the entire market. If the Bank was to try to even think of offloading these bonds, or even to stop buying gilts, we’d soon see how impressed investors are with Osborne’s governance.
In short, the UK is a ‘zombie’ economy. From top to bottom, it’s being kept on life support by low interest rates".
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This is the same doommonger John Stepek whose non main stream economic advice at the start of 2013 was to Buy Gold. This same magazine this year stated 2013 was "terrible for gold" Gold dropped 431 points (25.69% in value)
I bet you also believe that other sad leftie economist Danny 'I'm always wrong' Blanchflower!
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| Quote: Him "Not at all, I hadn't actually noticed your post, apologies.
Apology accepted
Quote: Him "It certainly wasn't a deliberate error to mislead, the graphs on that site are, however, a little misleading themselves. For instance if you use the same data ie GDP per capita PPP but for 2010 to 2013 you will see it shows the higher figure I quoted as being for a period including 2010 and into 2011, but not to the end of 2011.
If I was incorrect, I apologise and withdraw the comment.
Ok I accept you didn't intend to mislead. The graph shows end of year figures, which is normal. You quoted the end of 2011. Given that the coalition had enjoyed 2 to 3 quarters of growth in 2010 since the election this would have made the increases to date even greater than using the end of 2010 figures.
As you were clearly incorrect and I also thank you your apology for this too. So I can repeat what you said at the time but with the opposite conclusion "thank you for proving the GDP per capita figures have risen since 2010"
Can we also agree that when you state something in future as a fact, or as you prefer to state "FACT", then we should all take it with a large pinch of salt
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