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Quote: wrencat1873 "Oops, I think that you have spectacularly missed the point.
Local government departments, on the whole, are no less efficient than those in many large conglomerates.

Can you imagine what would happen to the country if you actually got rid of 50% of the civil service ??
And, you say that you have NEVER read the Mail and the Express. Well you really should.
Most people are appalled by some of their right wing bigoted subject matter but, I guess that you may want to make your own mind up, once you've managed to read a few editions.'"


No, you have missed the point, I can chose to engage with Virgin, BT etc. I can't chose not to pay for the useless people at HMRC etc.

But, anyway, Teresa May (and maybe wont)

Do try and stay on topic.

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "No, you have missed the point, I can chose to engage with Virgin, BT etc. I can't chose not to pay for the useless people at HMRC etc.

But, anyway, Teresa May (and maybe wont)

Do try and stay on topic.'"


Ok, you chose to engage with the people at Virgin etc but, are they any better then the people at HMRC ?
Much as nobody wants to pay any tax, generally, they seem ok to deal with. Why do you believe that they are useless ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Ok, you chose to engage with the people at Virgin etc but, are they any better then the people at HMRC ?
Much as nobody wants to pay any tax, generally, they seem ok to deal with. Why do you believe that they are useless ?'"

Because they are, from experience, not a brain cell between them,

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Because they are, from experience, not a brain cell between them,'"


Oh, do tell.
Although they are extremely methodical and there isn't much common sense within their systems, they have to be "fair" and be seen to be "fair".

You sound like you may have had a hefty bill or fine ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Oh, do tell.
Although they are extremely methodical and there isn't much common sense within their systems, they have to be "fair" and be seen to be "fair".

You sound like you may have had a hefty bill or fine ?'"

oh bore off, there is no point discussing with lefties who love the bloated state and think the rich should pay more.

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "oh bore off, there is no point discussing with lefties who love the bloated state and think the rich should pay more.'"


Is that a promise mate? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "oh bore off, there is no point discussing with lefties who love the bloated state and think the rich should pay more.'"



Fetch the f'ing chips mate.

I was trying to ask if you had personally suffered a bad experience with HMRC, which, logically, would be a fine or a bill and you choose to go off on one.
You know very little about my financial affairs and how much myself or my business contribute to the exchequer.
As for loving the bloated state, I think that you are in cuckoo land but, think what you like c020.gif

As I said, my personal experience with HMRC has been pretty straightforward. Yes, you have to queue on the phone but, they've always been reasonable to deal with and as mentioned earlier, they HAVE to be fair AND seen to be fair, something which you either dont know or, choose not to grasp.

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Mrs May probably isn't the worst PM ever, but she's in the top two - and the other ones also a woman.

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "and think the rich should pay more.'"

They should.

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Quote: tigertot "They should.'"

Why should they?

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Why should they?'"


You prefer leaving the vulnerable to fend for themselves and find an early grave ?
We could get rid of the NHS while we're at it and follow the American model d040.gif

In a civilised society and in order to distinguish ourselves from the animal kingdom, people should look out for each other and not be so bloody self serving that they ignore people who need some help.

Maybe you could join the predictions league on the Wakefield forum and give just a little to charity as well a046.gif

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Why should they?'"

The clue is in the name. They can afford it.

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Quote: tigertot "The clue is in the name. They can afford it.'"

They work for it, an alien concept to many.

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "They work for it, an alien concept to many.'"

I hope you are working off battery not mains. I wouldn't trust someone as simple as you with mains electricity.

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Quote: tigertot "I hope you are working off battery not mains. I wouldn't trust someone as simple as you with mains electricity.'"

resort to insults as usual.

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