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| Capitalism as a system FAILS because people die of GREED.
That will now cause the right wingers no end of problems trying to work it out but it is a truth.
Have fun Sal, AJW, World of Red Boy etc.
Try and refute it.
Your replies, if any, will make for interesting reading.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "[iLord Elpers wrote
It looks to me that the figure you quoted ie 32809 was for the end of 2011 and not 2010. The coalition came to power in the 2nd quarter of 2010. So was this a misreading of graphs error or a deliberate error to mislead?
rlhttp://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-per-capita-ppprl'"
Has 'Him' done a runner?
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| Quote: JerryChicken "...because thats what is at the source of all poverty isn't it, people who would have enough money if only they didn't spend it all on christmas presents.'"
Wouldn't have thought there was much poverty in Horsforth Gerry. I'm sure your Christmas golfing socks were of the finest merino wool!
Perhaps you missed the part where she didn't actually have the money, but borrowed it, and is now complaining that her benefits payments will not cover the repayments?
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| The austerity looks like it is working. The UK economy is now predicted to overtake Germany as Europe's strongest by 2030 and predicted to have the second highest highest growth, after the USA, of any advanced economy.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Capitalism as a system FAILS because people die of GREED.
That will now cause the right wingers no end of problems trying to work it out but it is a truth.
Have fun Sal, AJW, World of Red Boy etc.
Try and refute it.
Your replies, if any, will make for interesting reading.'"
Traditionally, people die of stoppage of the breath......something common to all of us!
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| Quote: Dally "The austerity looks like it is working. The UK economy is now predicted to overtake Germany as Europe's strongest by 2030 and predicted to have the second highest highest growth, after the USA, of any advanced economy.'"
Do you share this optimistic prediction Dally?
Will the United Kingdom even exist in 2030? Will we live in an Islamic Republic? Will England just be a state within Euroland?
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "Has 'Him' done a runner?'"
Not at all, I hadn't actually noticed your post, apologies.
It certainly wasn't a deliberate error to mislead, the graphs on that site are, however, a little misleading themselves. For instance if you use the same data ie GDP per capita PPP but for 2010 to 2013 you will see it shows the higher figure I quoted as being for a period including 2010 and into 2011, but not to the end of 2011.
If I was incorrect, I apologise and withdraw the comment.
Incidentally, I notice the Andrew Mitchell thread hasn't been touched recently...
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| Quote: rumpelstiltskin "Wouldn't have thought there was much poverty in Horsforth Gerry. I'm sure your Christmas golfing socks were of the finest merino wool!
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Don't know, I neither live in Horsforth nor play golf.
I'd be ace on "Whats My Line".
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| Quote: Dally "The austerity looks like it is working. The UK economy is now predicted to overtake Germany as Europe's strongest by 2030 and predicted to have the second highest highest growth, after the USA, of any advanced economy.'"
Did you actualyy read the report or just the headline?
Few commentators have mentioned the population growth required to achieve the projected economic success, a growth that can only be achieved through a massive increase in migrant labour
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| Low taxes also cited.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Low taxes also cited.'"
They will appear mid 2014 as a selling point.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "NO MORE ARGUMENTS
The so called economists of the mainstream media are thick - just like you.
"George Osborne likes to say that the UK government’s cost of borrowing (the yield on gilts – government IOUs) is low because investors are impressed with his running of the economy.
This is complete and utter tripe.
Gilt yields are low because the Bank of England now owns about a third of the entire market. If the Bank was to try to even think of offloading these bonds, or even to stop buying gilts, we’d soon see how impressed investors are with Osborne’s governance.
In short, the UK is a ‘zombie’ economy. From top to bottom, it’s being kept on life support by low interest rates".
Source: John Stepek, Money Week
In short:-
As soon as interest rates go up we are finished.
As soon as foreign investors move away from the pound we are finished.
This is only a matter of time.
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| Quote: Mintball "So, you cannot answer the question?
You're the one stating that anyone who dares to empathise with others and even mention fairness should not do so once earning a certain amount of money.
This 'argument' has previously been shown (not by me) to be crassThe Spirit Level[/i more than once on here, so either you've missed it, forgotten it or decided to ignore it.
Feel free to refute the work that Wilkinson and Pickett did – using evidence – but stop trying to pretend that such evidence does not exist.'"
What are you on about - or what are you on?
When people are struggling it takes all their energy and will to keep their head above water, they are shopping in a supermarket because that is all they can afford. Their not too bothered whether the multiple offers one type of apple or ten as long as the price is within their means. It is only when we reach a certain level/status/position which will be unaffected by their change in view - that they are to consider the wider perspective. Simple Maslow really. Look in the mirror you are that person. How much of your hard earned salary would/have you be/been prepared to give up so somebody down the chain of command could have more?
We are basically animals with animal instincts - our behaviour is similar to what you see in the jungle. One of the reasons meritocracy/capitalism works is because it appeals to our inbuilt instincts - the best hunter will have the most food, best choice of mate etc.
I don't need to know what you earn to know you are comfortable - you expose your whole existence and status in the posts on this very board. You wonder why I have little truck with your position? Your biggest worry is whether the local butcher will have twenty different cuts of Beef available and whether it is organic? You think somebody on minimum wage gives a about whether their food is organic as long as they have some. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You talk the talk but you certainly will never walk the walk.
I don't need to put a figure on when you become less egocentric - it depends on individual circumstances. You cannot quantify it.
Again you produce one piece of work and suggest it is irrefutable proof? I take you have read Christopher Snowden's book that complete dismantles this theory? Who is right who is wrong?
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| Quote: General Zod. "The so called economists of the mainstream media are thick - just like you.
"George Osborne likes to say that the UK government’s cost of borrowing (the yield on gilts – government IOUs) is low because investors are impressed with his running of the economy.
This is complete and utter tripe.
Gilt yields are low because the Bank of England now owns about a third of the entire market. If the Bank was to try to even think of offloading these bonds, or even to stop buying gilts, we’d soon see how impressed investors are with Osborne’s governance.
In short, the UK is a ‘zombie’ economy. From top to bottom, it’s being kept on life support by low interest rates".
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if interest rates rise will investors not buy in to the pound?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "What are you on about - or what are you on?
When people are struggling it takes all their energy and will to keep their head above water, they are shopping in a supermarket because that is all they can afford. Their not too bothered whether the multiple offers one type of apple or ten as long as the price is within their means. It is only when we reach a certain level/status/position which will be unaffected by their change in view - that they are to consider the wider perspective. Simple Maslow really. Look in the mirror you are that person. How much of your hard earned salary would/have you be/been prepared to give up so somebody down the chain of command could have more?
We are basically animals with animal instincts - our behaviour is similar to what you see in the jungle. One of the reasons meritocracy/capitalism works is because it appeals to our inbuilt instincts - the best hunter will have the most food, best choice of mate etc.
I don't need to know what you earn to know you are comfortable - you expose your whole existence and status in the posts on this very board. You wonder why I have little truck with your position? Your biggest worry is whether the local butcher will have twenty different cuts of Beef available and whether it is organic? You think somebody on minimum wage gives a poop about whether their food is organic as long as they have some. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You talk the talk but you certainly will never walk the walk.
I don't need to put a figure on when you become less egocentric - it depends on individual circumstances. You cannot quantify it.
Again you produce one piece of work and suggest it is irrefutable proof? Why because a few trendy lefties have told you so? I take you have read Christopher Snowden's book that complete dismantles this theory? Who is right who is wrong?'"
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