Be very, very careful on this subject: as charges have been made, the matter is now sub judice.

I was talking about his specific action within the current society and climate. No doubt there are plenty of people, including some who have posted on this thread, who would be more than capable under the right circumstance. What I'm confused about is where these people come from and if they are actually aware of their own nature or not. Like the guy with the Margaret Thatcher avatar who just got exposed and then for some reason decided to call me a bigot. Is he actually aware of himself, does he realise what he's doing and what he is and just go along with it anyway? Is it some metalogical form of trolling or are they just hopelessly oblivious to the point of delusion? It's all very strange to me.

Doesn't mean he had anything to do with the leave campaign.

They are related in the same way the vast majority of Islamic terrorism in the West isn't perpetrated by card-carrying members of Al-Qaeda/ISIS etc. They are inspired by their rhetoric and view points. In this case the demonisation of immigrants.

No foundation for that assumption , quite possibly he might have had personal experiences that have driven his actions

We don't know

Bull. It is exactly the same as the Orlando shooting. Someone not directly affiliated with a group or ideology but influenced by its rhetoric.
By hate-filled cr&p such as thishttps://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bigrobrhinos/A09264DC-04F7-4570-8C2D-5E0321333499.jpg" >

Don't pretend that Starbug doesn't eat that type of stuff up, the man is definitely a UKIP voter.

Are you the blokes paperboy ?

Never actually seen any of those headlines , then again , never bought a Daily Express , or Mail for that matter , don't think I've bought a newspaper for 15 years

Have seen 1st hand the effects of immigration on the NHS though , and on local streets at 2 am in the morning

As I said we don't know his reasons for sure , so I'll wait till more information is made public before drawing conclusions

You're free to do the opposite

UKIP didn't exist the last time I voted

last time I read a Daily Mail was at my Grandads in the 70s when I followed the adventures of Fred Bassett

Just realised I have read a Daily Mail recently , well part of it that was handed to me at my in laws when discussing the the referendum during a visit

The quote was from the 11th of June

Surely what happened in Birstall is terrorism?

A heinous act carried out in the name of some sort of ideology/political agenda, as it appears it was, is surely an act of terror?

Was he Muslim?

If you answered no...then not a terrorist

Sincerely

All Western Media outlets.

So have I - 50,000 of them work in it; and another 40odd thousand in the social care sector, looking after your nana when she's lost her faculties.

And for what it's worth - the parlous state of the NHS is not due to immigration; it's caused by years of ideological austerity imposed by the Tories. And fat people.

Exactly.

The argument that immigrants are crippling our public services is one of the most ignorant I've seen in this whole debate.

EU Migrants as a group are also net contributors to the system (they bring more in through taxation than they cost in public services). Educated elsewhere, young, fit & healthy, working and paying tax.

I wouldn't dream of disputing any of what you've posted , but as I said , I've seen 1 st hand the strain immigration has placed on both the NHS and Education , I do feel we need to address it because if we don't it will become a problem IMO

You might well feel differently , but I would ask a simple question , at what level do you feel it might become an issue ?