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Quote: Dally "OK, let's be accutate, what was the nature of the"sexual activity" between men that was illegal? What reasons were given for treating it as illegal?'"


Religion based morality.

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Quote: Dally "OK, let's be accutate, what was the nature of the"sexual activity" between men that was illegal? What reasons were given for treating it as illegal?'"


accutate?

is there such a word

accurate, perhaps?

now, repeat after me "I'm a homophobic bigot with no argument against equality of rights in marriage other than some spurious "standards" I perceive the sky pixie to have, and a general discomfort with the idea of bum sex"

then go do ten hail Mary's for saying "bum sex", it will make your god angry otherwise.

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Quote: Dally "OK, let's be accutate, what was the nature of the"sexual activity" between men that was illegal? What reasons were given for treating it as illegal?'"

Between late Victorian time and the late 1960's ?
As I understand it, it was ANY sexual activity between men, known in the courts back then as "gross indecency".
The sheer mechanics of sex would lead one to include anal, manual and oral sex as the main "methods".
Of course, under that law, it wasn't considered "grossly indecent" or illegal if heterosexuals did it.
I don't know that any reasons for a law are included in the statute but I could easily be wrong on that.

Woman on woman wasn't even covered in legislation at all.

As you are the one who is getting all upset about this, why don't you do the research and tell us, instead of asking these vague questions, looking for some pathetically slight anomaly that might make you feel justified.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Between late Victorian time and the late 1960's ?
As I understand it, it was ANY sexual activity between men, known in the courts back then as "gross indecency".
The sheer mechanics of sex would lead one to include anal, manual and oral sex as the main "methods".
Of course, under that law, it wasn't considered "grossly indecent" or illegal if heterosexuals did it.
I don't know that any reasons for a law are included in the statute but I could easily be wrong on that.

Woman on woman wasn't even covered in legislation at all.

As you are the one who is getting all upset about this, why don't you do the research and tell us, instead of asking these vague questions, looking for some pathetically slight anomaly that might make you feel justified.'"


I'd wager that "clergy on choirister" was an act deemed acceptable by God, in Dally's f'd up little world.

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Quote: Dally "OK, let's be accutate, what was the nature of the"sexual activity" between men that was illegal? What reasons were given for treating it as illegal?'"


What you're failing to understand that sexual activity let alone the relationship is legal. This is not going to change. Get used to it.

Understanding the above, what other valid reasons do you have?

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Quote: El Barbudo "It may seem a minor issue but it was the sexual activity between men that was illegal before 1967 NOT the homosexuality of those men.
Let's be accurate please.'"




Must. Resist. Temptation.

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Quote: Mintball "

Must. Resist. Temptation.'"


nah, go for it.

it's like the phrase "as miserable as sin", I've sinned, 'lot's, and I've loved every minute of it!

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Quote: Standee "nah, go for it.

it's like the phrase "as miserable as sin", I've sinned, 'lot's, and I've loved every minute of it!'"


icon_mrgreen.gif Me too.

I was feeling tempted to respond to El Barbudo's call to "Let's be accurate please", by responding that that becomes difficult when the poster that he himself was responding to almost certainly believes that God got a woman 'with child' without her knowing or, therefore, consenting (otherwise known as rape); Mary only 'consents' after the fact, according to the Good Book.

In which case, what on Earth would one define as 'accuracy'?

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Quote: Mintball "

To the adherents of the belief system you describe, accuracy is trumped by belief and any demand for accuracy would be met by vehement but circular arguments using unproven, highly improbable but un-disprovable notions as "evidence".

But , in the instance that I was highlighting, accuracy is verifiable.
(i.e. what was or was not illegal).

Aye thang ewe.

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Quote: JerryChicken "Religion based morality.'"

You're right, it was the same sort of petty religion-based "We know best about your life" morality that gave us petty byelaws banning the selling fish and chips on a Sunday and closing the wine aisle in supermarkets on Good Friday.

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Quote: El Barbudo "You're right, it was the same sort of petty religion-based "We know best about your life" morality that gave us petty byelaws banning the selling fish and chips on a Sunday and closing the wine aisle in supermarkets on Good Friday.'"


And stopping BBC broadcasts on Sunday evening from late afternoon until 7pm to allow people to go to church icon_lol.gif

Can you imagine trying to do that now ?

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Quote: JerryChicken "And stopping BBC broadcasts on Sunday evening from late afternoon until 7pm to allow people to go to church
I do like the way the Church is starting to get what it deserves, a friend of mine recently successfully got an ASBO against the local bell ringers (well, a computer programme that rang the bells) they now cannot ring before 10am and after 6pm, he wasn't goimg to take it so far until the local Vicar was such a complete to55er about it.

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Quote: Standee "I do like the way the Church is starting to get what it deserves, a friend of mine recently successfully got an ASBO against the local bell ringers (well, a computer programme that rang the bells) they now cannot ring before 10am and after 6pm, he wasn't goimg to take it so far until the local Vicar was such a complete to55er about it.'"


Sounds like your mate has spoiled it for everyone. Bells chime for a reason you know.

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This is a situation where I have some sympathy with the church, since it and the bells were more than likely there before the houses and the people who moved there.

I know York Minster gets frequent complaints from the Dean Court Hotel right next door. I believe the reply is generally along the lines of the Dean Court Hotel was built in 1865. York Minster was consecrated in 1472. If you choose to build a hotel next to a big church, don't be surprised by the bells.

It's a bit like someone moving in to a house near old Trafford then complaining about the noise and the traffic every other week.

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Quote: wigan_rlfc "Sounds like your mate has spoiled it for everyone. Bells chime for a reason you know.'"


there may well be a reason, but there isn't a purpose of a bell ringing at 3am, is there?

religion has done way more to "spoil" the world than my mate not wanting to listen to bells rining 24/7

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