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Quote: Ajw71 "I'm sorry but because she has a disability that doesn't mean I have to agree with every word she says.

I have never said anything about her disability so why resort to personal abuse?'"



You can disagree with me all you like but its not my policies, its the governements. I've told you what is happening. They even used Financial Privilege to overturn the House Of Lords' Ammendments to ESA. Granted, the HoL didn't totally disregard ESA but they put in some sensible Ammendments that would "soften the blow" so to speak but Grayling just steam rollered that.

If you had bothered to read all of my posts, I have posted facts & figures from DWP's own documents, posted articles from disability groups detailing what the government are doing and even posted questions from my ESA50 form.

If you disagree with what I'm saying, then do some research yourself on ESA & DLA/PIP and come back with some sensible comments.

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rlThe Daily Wail, Nazis and Cameronrl

My gob is well and truly smacked.

Come on Ajw71, surely this cannot be right? The mouthpiece of every right-thinking (only in ther deluded imaginations) tory, turning on your heroes? Anything to say?

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It looks like DWP's Workfare scheme may be in a spot of bother.

rlEmployers reject jobs scheme that's all work and no payrl

It seems that public pressure and bad publicity can make a difference, if not to Government policy but at least to the attitudes of the targeted employers.

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Quote: Keep sending us more free workers to replace the ones we have to pay wages to but put a bit of icing on the cake so the public swallow it easier "Tesco delivered an ultimatum to the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) demanding that ministers guarantee no one would lose their benefits'"


An ultimatum ?

"Keep sending us more free workers to replace the ones we have to pay wages to but put a bit of icing on the cake so the public swallow it easier".


Bad news follows this governments policies around like a piece of toilet paper stuck to a heel and like a piece of toilet paper stuck to a heel, they can't see it.

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Graylings name calling of "job snobs" is quite frankly disgusting and appalling. I would love to stack shelves/operate a till in Tesco's (not for nowt though). I loved working for Grandways in my student days. Unfortunatley my hands wouldn't let me lift any goods to the shelves or scan through tills as my wrists and fingers are tissue damaged. He is either too thick to realise there are disabled people who are phsically incapable of doing the work or he doesn't care. I know which my money's on.

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Quote: Hull White Star "You can disagree with me all you like but its not my policies, its the governements. I've told you what is happening. They even used Financial Privilege to overturn the House Of Lords' Ammendments to ESA. Granted, the HoL didn't totally disregard ESA but they put in some sensible Ammendments that would "soften the blow" so to speak but Grayling just steam rollered that.

If you had bothered to read all of my posts, I have posted facts & figures from DWP's own documents, posted articles from disability groups detailing what the government are doing and even posted questions from my ESA50 form.

If you disagree with what I'm saying, then do some research yourself on ESA & DLA/PIP and come back with some sensible comments.'"

No no no. You just don't get it. You're supposed to lose your benefits and be happy about it. You just need to get a grip and get yourself to work. Then with all the money saved that you've been unnecessarily draining from hard-working taxpayers like Ajw you can hire a carer to look after you. Presumably a private one since the NHS is to be privatised and presumably this carer is on a decent wage with an expense account.

This is the real world, you just need to get a grip and calm down dear.

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Quote: Him "No no no. You just don't get it. You're supposed to lose your benefits and be happy about it. You just need to get a grip and get yourself to work. Then with all the money saved that you've been unnecessarily draining from hard-working taxpayers like Ajw you can hire a carer to look after you. Presumably a private one since the NHS is to be privatised and presumably this carer is on a decent wage with an expense account.

This is the real world, you just need to get a grip and calm down dear.'"



Oh yeah, I never looked at it that way icon_wink.gif

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I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then icon_rolleyes.gif

www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister

Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.
I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then icon_rolleyes.gif

www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister

Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.


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Quote: Hull White Star "I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then
And if anyone wanted proof that these cuts have nothing whatsoever to do with what the coalition claims (helping people back into work etc), but are entirely ideological ...

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rlRemploy to close "loss-making" factoriesrl (thanks for the link Minty)

Yet another "price worth paying"?

Close the factories, remove or reduce any subsidies to others and let those employed go onto benefits? Yeah sounds like a real plan.

Shortly after my old man was demobbed in 1946, the horrors of four years fighting in the Burmese jungle finally took their toll and he suffered an almost complete breakdown. Not fit enough to go back to work on the docks, he was eased back into it by spending some months at Remploy. They taught him basic DIY and caprentry skills but more importantly, they gave him the confidence to go back to driving his crane on Hull docks.

Now this bunch of shysting cockroaches want to remove yet another basic tenet of the post-war Welfare State by probably driving the final nail into Remploy's coffin. Thatcher made the first move by virtually privatising the organisation, now Cameron and his LibDem stooges are looking to finish the job and let the vulnerable wither where they lay.

Angry doesn't even begin to describe my mood.

rlI can only dreamrl yet still worry about just how much irrepairable damage they can inflict in the next three years.

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Quote: cod'ead "

rlI can only dreamrl yet still worry about just how much irrepairable damage they can inflict in the next three years.'"


Its clear to most that Cameron is playing with very high stakes, as we used to say "s[ihi[/it or bust" - his plans have to be rushed through because the quicker he gets them in place the more chance he has of any of them actually starting to work (given benefit of doubt) before the next election, he now has no more then three years to bring down unemployment and ride the tide of poverty stricken disabled critics - not forgetting almost all of the NHS, etc, etc.

I hope that Labour are sitting on their hands just waiting for him to fall because they sure as hell aren't proving themselves to be a vicious opposition at the moment.

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Quote: cod'ead "rlRemploy to close "loss-making" factoriesrl (thanks for the link Minty)

Yet another "price worth paying"?

Close the factories, remove or reduce any subsidies to others and let those employed go onto benefits? Yeah sounds like a real plan. '"


Sounds like even DWP advisors didn't know this was happening as I had my first Work Related Activity Group meeting at the JobCentre last month and when I asked just who would employ me the first thing my advisor said was Remploy. It was snowing and icy and when I pointed out it wouldn't be safe for me to be out on the ice he advised they also do a pick up and drop off for those with mobility problems. He was really pushing me to consider Remploy and tried to make me go on a "workshop" course with them.

Getting us back into work my icon_ass.gif

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I couldn't believe disabled people's minister Maria Miller saying that they were not "financially viable" – but putting people on the dole is?

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Quote: McLaren_Field "
I hope that Labour are sitting on their hands just waiting for him to fall because they sure as hell aren't proving themselves to be a vicious opposition at the moment.'"


Competent would be a start, vicious can come later.

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Quote: Hull White Star " When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. '"


Don't worry about it: the government will probably have solved that problem by slashing whatever benefit your husband would go onto by then.

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 Sat 3rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Rochdale
v
Goole V
       Championship 2025-R9
17:00
LondonB
v
York
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R9
18:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
       League One 2025-R8
13:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
       Championship 2025-R9
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Sheffield
15:00
Doncaster
v
Oldham
15:00
Hunslet
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Swinton
v
Crusaders
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Sat 10th May 2025
       Championship 2025-R10
17:00
Oldham
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th May 2025
       League One 2025-R9
14:30
Crusaders
v
Newcastle
       Championship 2025-R10
15:00
Batley
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Doncaster
15:00
LondonB
v
Sheffield
15:00
Widnes
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Hunslet
       League One 2025-R9
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Cornwall
15:00
Keighley
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Midlands
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
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v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
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Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
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Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
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Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
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Warrington
17:30
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Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
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Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
       Championship 2025-R11
19:30
Sheffield
v
Hunslet
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
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St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
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Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
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14:30
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Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R11
18:00
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Barrow
 Sun 25th May 2025
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14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R11
15:00
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v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Batley
15:00
Oldham
v
Halifax
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
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Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R12
17:00
LondonB
v
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R12
18:00
Batley
v
Toulouse
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       Championship 2025-R12
15:00
Barrow
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Hunslet
v
Oldham
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
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v
Keighley
15:00
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Dewsbury
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
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19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2025-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Sheffield
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Featherstone
v
Hunslet
15:00
Widnes
v
Halifax
15:00
Toulouse
v
LondonB
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
 Thu 19th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
Castleford
v
Hull KR
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
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Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
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Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
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Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
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Hull KR-Salford
SL
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Leigh-Catalans
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Wakefield-St.Helens
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Leeds-Castleford
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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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