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Quote: Ovavoo "Unless there is more to it, your wife's boss must be a clown. He or she actually took the time to ring her with news of a formal warning whilst she is absent due to a work related injury?? Worlds gone mad.
She didn't by any chance break her leg kicking the said boss did she?'"


Or it could be that his wife's boss is acting under orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from a committee set up to appease the union. In other words, his hands are tied and that he is compelled to follow procedure.

He probably didn't like making the call any more than she liked to receive it.

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Quote: ROBINSON "
Quote: ROBINSON "Unless there is more to it, your wife's boss must be a clown. He or she actually took the time to ring her with news of a formal warning whilst she is absent due to a work related injury?? Worlds gone mad.
She didn't by any chance break her leg kicking the said boss did she?'"


Or it could be that his wife's boss is acting under orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from a committee set up to appease the union. In other words, his hands are tied and that he is compelled to follow procedure.

He probably didn't like making the call any more than she liked to receive it.'"


Poor boss. Doomed forever to blindly follow the commy unions as much as his/her heart yearns for freedom. He or she could have refused and then at the disciplinary meeting sought help from his/her union.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Poor boss. Doomed forever to blindly follow the commy unions as much as his/her heart yearns for freedom. He or she could have refused and then at the disciplinary meeting sought help from his/her union.'"


SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.

That's a bit silly, isn't it?

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Quote: ROBINSON "SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.

That's a bit silly, isn't it?'"


If this is correct: "Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record"

Then what he did is beyond "silly", whether he was "following orders" or not is completely immaterial. The bloke's an imbecile

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Quote: ROBINSON "SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.

That's a bit silly, isn't it?'"


Let's be clear though: what you have suggested is not even opinion, but the foisting of a scenario from a different case onto this one.

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Quote: cod'ead "If this is correct

OK, I get what you're saying.

So you're saying he should refuse to do the warning, then possibly end up with a warning (or worse) himself?

That said, for both parties, there will be a right to appeal, which is all well and good, if not a pain in the arsse to go through.

What none of us know, is the boss's attitude to it all. Did he ring and say "look, I'm sorry, but I HAVE to give you a warning as it's policy, but you can appeal, I'll back you up, you should be ok and I believe the policy is rubbish" or did he say "you're off sick, I'm warning you, tough titty"

There's a world of difference between those two attitudes - the former is not that of an imbecile, but the latter certainly would be.

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I think we could deduce that her boss was a clown by the fact the words works for local authority were used icon_lol.gif

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Just looked up my companys for an example

Quote: " There are 3 clear stages to the trigger system

The RRTWI is fairly common these days and a good way to cover both parties in a semi-informal way, a good chance to discuss any problmes, but is not disciplinary.

The File Note is similar, but more formal, but still not disciplinary.

Trigger point 3 is and thats for 4 absences, but thats only if theres no great reason. If there is good reason then its referred to our Occ Health advisors etc

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Quote: Hutchie "I think we could deduce that her boss was a clown by the fact the words works for local authority were used
As opposed to, say, the bloke who runs Iceland?

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Quote: ROBINSON "... What none of us know... '"


... is very much. You're assuming, for instance, that the boss did not decide to make the call off his own bat.

You don't know that. Neither do I. He might have been told to do it. He might not have. But you're making an assumption.

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Quote: ROBINSON "OK, I get what you're saying.

So you're saying he should refuse to do the warning, then possibly end up with a warning (or worse) himself?

That said, for both parties, there will be a right to appeal, which is all well and good, if not a pain in the arsse to go through.

What none of us know, is the boss's attitude to it all. Did he ring and say "look, I'm sorry, but I HAVE to give you a warning as it's policy, but you can appeal, I'll back you up, you should be ok and I believe the policy is rubbish" or did he say "you're off sick, I'm warning you, tough titty"

There's a world of difference between those two attitudes - the former is not that of an imbecile, but the latter certainly would be.'"


Any of that SHOULD be done when someone returns to work or be dealt with by HR, the manager here has over stepped his authority.

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Quote: Mintball "... is very much. You're assuming, for instance, that the boss did not decide to make the call off his own bat.

You don't know that. Neither do I. He might have been told to do it. He might not have. But you're making an assumption.'"


Lets have a think about this

I know where you work, you know what I do, we both know what ROBINSON does.......

waste of time anyone?

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Quote: Standee "Lets have a think about this

I know where you work, you know what I do, we both know what ROBINSON does.......

waste of time anyone?'"


I'd say lettings are a bit quiet and the girls in the office are having none of his "shenanigans" after the whole Rennard thing... icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: rover49 "Anyone help on this.

My wife had an accident at work and ended up with a fracture and a pot on, she has been on sick with it for 4 weeks and does not get the pot off for another 4 weeks. Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record (last sick was 3 years ago), which has really upset her.

Can they do this, especially as she did it working for them.

Her work mates had told her to claim, but she refused saying it was an accident and no-one was to blame. Loyalty eh!!'"


Hope you get things sorted.

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Quote: Mintball "As opposed to, say, the bloke who runs Iceland?'"


Whats Malcolm Walker go to do with this ?

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