| FORUMS > The Sin Bin > Woolwich incident |
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 27039 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: rover49 "I would say your post is very pertinent to the thread, most of the other posts have gone off at a usual Sin Bin tangent and have become embroiled in the usual religious and political arguments behind it. The sad thing is that there is a dead young man who has left a distraught wife and a small child grieving, which becomes secondary to these arguments.'"
Tommy is one of the few who have posted on this thread to have any decency at all.
Its just a power struggle on here at times and any event will be used to fuel it. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 14845 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2021 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
The lad appears to have been estranged from his wife and was engaged. Not that that matters.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 47951 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Rooster Booster "Maybe I shouldn't have retaliated to your initial personal digs, suggestions and inmuendo. But I did. Unfortunately.
You make so much stuff up in your mind about what i think or what's happening. Getting it wrong all the time. Something that would be easily resolved in a conversation. But off you fly attack attack attack . And it is I that needs help is it? About something I don't even believe!'"
Perhaps you shouldn't have made claims that you cannot even remotely back up and then try to swerve madly (including by mentioning unrelated PM conversations) and make suggestions about someone, all the while still showing that you cannot back up your initial claims.
Either you can back up your initial claim or you cannot and all you were doing was spreading gossip – and probably malicious gossip at that.
It's that simple. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 47951 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Rooster Booster "Maybe I shouldn't have retaliated to your initial personal digs, suggestions and inmuendo. But I did. Unfortunately.
You make so much stuff up in your mind about what i think or what's happening. Getting it wrong all the time. Something that would be easily resolved in a conversation. But off you fly attack attack attack . And it is I that needs help is it? About something I don't even believe!'"
Perhaps you shouldn't have made claims that you cannot even remotely back up and then try to swerve madly (including by mentioning unrelated PM conversations) and make suggestions about someone, all the while still showing that you cannot back up your initial claims.
Either you can back up your initial claim or you cannot and all you were doing was spreading gossip – and probably malicious gossip at that.
It's that simple. |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 2236 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2018 | Dec 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: El Rey "Tommy is one of the few who have posted on this thread to have any decency at all.
Its just a power struggle on here at times and any event will be used to fuel it.'"
Threads on the main board would have been locked by now, this is just becoming pathetic. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 47951 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dreamer "Threads on the main board would have been locked by now, this is just becoming pathetic.'"
This is an off-topic forum.
What happened at Woolwich was, in itself, a particularly horrific crime. But it does not stand alone.
It would appear, for instance, that at least one of the accused was known to the intelligence services and had been arrested in Kenya three years ago.
In the meantime, there are suggestions that one way forward is a new version of a previously-moosted 'snooper's charter'.
In other words, this particular crime has many ramifications and potential ramifications far beyond most other murders. It should hardly be a surprise that people wish to discuss the issues that it raises. |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 13026 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Scooter Nik "Let me get this straight.
These 'terrorists' were right next to an army barracks, in a car, and the best they can come up with is a sharp blade?
Pretty carp terrorists if you ask me. I'd have thought filling the car with unleaded and driving it at the gates would have made a bigger impact.
There's been a suggestion made by a mate in the area that it's more likely to be drugs related BTW.
Other than that, it is a truly disgusting crime, but until a few more facts emerge, I'm happy to sit here laughng at the 'I'm not racist but...' brigade.'"
Have you changed your mind now?......  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 37704 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dally "The lad appears to have been estranged from his wife and was engaged. Not that that matters.'"
So why bother friggin' posting it then?
Dally Wail in essence |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 14845 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2021 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: cod'ead "So why bother friggin' posting it then?
'"
To "correct" something someone had written. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 8633 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2015 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "Have you changed your mind now?...... ![]()
In essence, no.
I'm still enjoying the ongoing battle for supremacy. The only thing in there that obviously isn't right is the drugs connection. Like I said, it was something I read, the original poster is denying he said it now and it's mysteriously vanished!
Is it my imagination, or have the press stopped referring to this as 'terrorism', and are now just referring to it as a 'murder'?
But now for my favourite conspiracy theory so far, I have to share this. I've paraphrased it a lot, but in short, here is the best conspiracy theory yet, it just misses out The Illuminati and/or New World Order.
********************************************************************
MI5 actually successfully recruited the murderer. They get him to infiltrate a mosque known to harbour a radical Islamic preacher, and pretend to become radicalised. They then set him up to murder Soldier Lee Rigby in an attempt to discredit the preacher and/or Mosques in general. In short, they set him up as a fall guy.
With it so far? You want proof?
The proof is (apparently) that despite being next to Woolwich Barracks, despite explosives being easy to make and despite having a car, it didn't occur to them to actually try to bomb the barracks as this would have been too heinious a crime. There is also the point about the amount of witnesses that, instead of running away screaming (As I would have done!) stood around calmly filming the murder on their mobile phones. Finally, there is the arrest of the friend who has blown the whistle on MI5 being arrested as no one is supposed to know about the recruitment.
***********************************************************************
Some peoples paranoia know no bounds.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 37704 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dally "To "correct" something someone had written.'"
Posted on here or posted in your mind?
It is usual, if wanting to correct someone, to quote the phrase or post that requires correction. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 37704 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
rlFleet Street Fox's take on the EDL post-Woolwichrl
I find little to disagree with. She often exhibits a wonderful turn of phrase, such as: "what utter wastes of half-baked spunk they are"
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12749 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Nov 2009 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: rover49 "I would say your post is very pertinent to the thread, most of the other posts have gone off at a usual Sin Bin tangent and have become embroiled in the usual religious and political arguments behind it. The sad thing is that there is a dead young man who has left a distraught wife and a small child grieving, which becomes secondary to these arguments.'"
I would agree.
It gives us a greater understanding of how Stephen Lawrence's family must have felt after being slashed down by young indoctrinated fascist thugs. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 2236 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2018 | Dec 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Mintball "This is an off-topic forum.
What happened at Woolwich was, in itself, a particularly horrific crime. But it does not stand alone.
It would appear, for instance, that at least one of the accused was known to the intelligence services and had been arrested in Kenya three years ago.
In the meantime, there are suggestions that one way forward is a new version of a previously-moosted 'snooper's charter'.
In other words, this particular crime has many ramifications and potential ramifications far beyond most other murders. It should hardly be a surprise that people wish to discuss the issues that it raises.'"
Thank you for your detailed response, however, I am aware of how this forum works, I read it most days. My use of the word pathetic was not aimed at the serious discussion, more the childish bickering, condescending attitudes and name calling. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12749 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Nov 2009 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Scooter Nik "
But now for my favourite conspiracy theory so far, I have to share this. I've paraphrased it a lot, but in short, here is the best conspiracy theory yet, it just misses out The Illuminati and/or New World Order.
'"
It's not a bad one but I prefer the one about WMD whereupon a western alliance invades a sovereign nation and kills hundreds of thousands of it's innocent citizens.
You surely couldn't make that one up and get away with it, could you? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
