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Quote: Dally "None of the pro- brigade ever make any serious comment beyond the ridiculously simplistic. '"


When faced with the insane arguments you have been trying to put forward what do you expect? The bigots have been equating homosexuality with illegal acts for years.

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Quote: Dally "I am not going to repeat the last n pages again. Read them if you want. I am thoroughly bored with this now. None of the pro- brigade ever make any serious comment beyond the ridiculously simplistic. Either that or silly "homophobe" comments. You can have your opinion I will have mine and seemingly never the twain shall meet.'"


one does have to wonder what your poor disabled daughter and mentally frail wife are doing whilst you're promoting homophobic bigotry 24/7, not to mention that tourtoured soul son, answering all those calls from nasty Personal Injury Solicitors touting for business.

I don't think I know of any other family that has fallen on such bad luck.

maybe God doesn't love you?

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Quote: Standee "one does have to wonder what your poor disabled daughter and mentally frail wife are doing whilst you're promoting homophobic bigotry 24/7, not to mention that tourtoured soul son, answering all those calls from nasty Personal Injury Solicitors touting for business.

I don't think I know of any other family that has fallen on such bad luck.

maybe God doesn't love you?'"




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Quote: Dally "I am not going to repeat the last n pages again. Read them if you want. I am thoroughly bored with this now...'"

Good.

Quote: Dally "... None of the pro- brigade ever make any serious comment beyond the ridiculously simplistic...'"

No, not "simplistic", the word is "simple".
The real argument is very simple ... should people who can have sex legally, marry legally?
In all these pages you have not put forward a single point other than you have a moral objection but, apart from comparisons with illegal acts, you have utterly failed to articulate that moral objection.

Quote: Dally "... Either that or silly "homophobe" comments....'"

You brought that on yourself by your incessant anti-gay posts.

Quote: Dally "... You can have your opinion I will have mine and seemingly never the twain shall meet.'"

It does seem so.

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I see Dally hasn't got a retort, maybe he's busy cutting eye holes in pillowcases?

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Equal marriage and adoption now passed in France.

Well done the French.

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "Homosexuality is not illegal anymore, and hasn't been for generations.'"

Not quite.

Homosexuality between males when in private was made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980 and in Northern Ireland in 1982 (and is still illegal in 70 countries in the world). The age of consent for gays was brought into line with straights in 1997 - however, no 'minor persons' could be present.

So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.

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Quote: Mintball "Equal marriage and adoption now passed in France.

Well done the French.'"


And the French have the right separation of church and state, quelle surprise.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Homosexuality is not illegal anymore, and hasn't been for generations.'"

Not quite.

Homosexuality between males when in private was made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980 and in Northern Ireland in 1982 (and is still illegal in 70 countries in the world). The age of consent for gays was brought into line with straights in 1997 - however, no 'minor persons' could be present.

So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.'"


When was it made illegal and how did people adjust?

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Quote: SaintsFan "
So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.'"


Its not really such a big ask, we made the leap from signs in boarding house windows stating "no blacks" to having a black Archbishop of York (and they STILL won't support women in their gang) in one generation, gay marriage is a small step really especially as its not going to affect the religious at all.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Not quite.

Homosexuality between males when in private was made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980 and in Northern Ireland in 1982 (and is still illegal in 70 countries in the world). The age of consent for gays was brought into line with straights in 1997 - however, no 'minor persons' could be present.

So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.'"


Do you still defend the right of a husband to rape his wife, since rape cannot exist in marriage? The old 'conjugal rights', eh?

After all, that's only really been tackled in very recent years. Is it a bit modern for you?

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Quote: Big Graeme "And the French have the right separation of church and state, quelle surprise.'"


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Quote: SaintsFan "Not quite.

Homosexuality between males when in private was made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980 and in Northern Ireland in 1982 (and is still illegal in 70 countries in the world). The age of consent for gays was brought into line with straights in 1997 - however, no 'minor persons' could be present.

So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.'"


It does surprise me. I can't understand why anyone would have an issue with it. It doesn't affect me yet I can see that it will benefit a large number of people, and cannot harm anyone.

My lack of understanding is why people would be against it. I can't believe that people are still so averse to accepting same sex couples, times have changed! You now have a mobile phone and the internet - would you prefer to go back to paper and ink and carrier pigeons?

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Quote: SaintsFan "Not quite.

Homosexuality between males when in private was made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980 and in Northern Ireland in 1982 (and is still illegal in 70 countries in the world). The age of consent for gays was brought into line with straights in 1997 - however, no 'minor persons' could be present.

So to leap from illegality to gay marriage in [iat most a generation[/i is a big ask and really it shouldn't surprise anyone that the leap cannot be made by everyone.'"

It may seem a minor issue but it was the sexual activity between men that was illegal before 1967 NOT the homosexuality of those men.
Let's be accurate please.

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Quote: El Barbudo "It may seem a minor issue but it was the sexual activity between men that was illegal before 1967 NOT the homosexuality of those men.
Let's be accurate please.'"


OK, let's be accutate, what was the nature of the"sexual activity" between men that was illegal? What reasons were given for treating it as illegal?

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