So could we [iall[/i be brainwashed?

evidence suggests it's more likely in your case

explain to us how you can believe something that has no factual basis?

Nothing like loading the question.

I don't want to go over old ground but I consider there to be a factual basis for my beliefs, as well as a spiritual basis.

yes, and as has been said, that is the evidence of brainwashing that we can all see.

We could, but it's infinitely more likely in those who believe stuff that flies in the face of logic and empirical evidence.

Factual is probably the wrong word, as what constitutes a 'FACT' is, as these boards regularly show us, entirely subjective. It would be more accurate to say that there is no [ievidential[/i basis for your beliefs.

Again, I would disagree and say that there is ample evidence.

brainwa.... forget it.

So, no need for the old 'faith' malarky, then?

Excellent. You won't have any problem linking to the peer-reviewed papers and/or scientific journals that support your claims, then.

No, you need faith in Jesus in order to be saved.

Are you saying evidence only comes in the forms mentioned above?

that's the commonly accepted definition

It can come in many forms but pointing to something like the Turin Shroud is certainly not evidence that it once contained Jesus. All it is, is evidence of a piece of old cloth with an unusual stain on it, that if you were to squint in a strange way, you might "see" an image that resembles an arcane representation of what someone thought Christ may have looked like.

For scientific purposes, yes.