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| Quote AXE2GRIND="AXE2GRIND"Your use of google is worthy of a 2nd....my knowledge of Latin is that I am pretty much fluent, but my greek is zero and my point, which you attempt to decry is still valid. BoJo is not a man of the people and his "scholarship" was one not open to common folk. His Grandparents were both literary and read folk...every family has a sheep farmer in it....not many were publishing books a decade before they entered politics...and not many attended Sherborne School...another Boarding School.....with firm ties to ETON.....who issued the friendly scholarship.'"
After your recent posts I'm not sure I believe anything you say. Tu loqueris stercora.
As I've already said, you stated something I hadn't heard before and when that happens I like to look into things. Now, you might use 'Ask Jeeves' but most folk turn to Google. And the reason I hadn't heard it before is because [i it simply isn't true[/i. You either lap up everything you hear on social media or you're telling lies to suit your agenda, or both.
My understanding is that anyone can apply for the notoriously difficult King's Scholarship although I'm not blind to the fact most will come from certain prep schools (happy to be corrected on any of this).
And so what if his family has been successful in various fields? Yes, the wealthy and successful will go to the best schools. So? Or are you suggesting they've all had everything handed to them on a silver platter? True, he got a couple of early journalist jobs through connections and acquaintances - no different to "son, my mate owns a garage, I've got you a job as a trainee". But he still had to work for his impressive academic achievements and to get where he is today.
You smack of envy, nothing more.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Do you consider that any of the three leaders in the last 3 years have actually done a "good job" ?
Cameron gave us a referendum, to (ironically) prevent his own party from splitting.
May, was just a wind bag and achieved nothing and Boris, just seems like a fantasist and again, apart from mickeying away his very slender majority, has yet to achieve anything, apart from fabricating promises, all of which have been proven to be somewhat exaggerated.
With Corbyn "leading" the opposition, what choice do we actually have - it's just depressing.'"
I didn't say they had done a particularly good job, although referendum aside Cameron was a reasonably good PM, May never had chance to do anything except be frustrated at every turn - even if in hindsight her approach to the EU was far too 'softly-softly' and she undermined her Brexit team. Boris has been in office for 5 minutes and hasn't had much chance to do anything yet, though with a minority government he still got the Withdrawal Bill through.
If he gets a majority and the opportunity to actually govern, I'll judge him by his record in 4-5 years. So far he's done ok.
And yes, you're correct about Corbyn. In fact Corbyn, Swinson, whoever the hell is up for the Greens or Brexit - none should ever get a sniff of No.10.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"What chance has Boris had - he simply cannot get anything through Parliament and the whole political system is stymied until we move on one way or another on Brexit.'"
You are an extremely forgiving person.
Firstly, Boris and his friends in the ERG could have helped ensure that May's deal got through and then, having ensured that May had to go, he PROMISED, DO OR DIE, that we would be out at the end of October, in the full knowledge of how parliament was paralysed and now, he is trying to do EXACTLY the same as Mrs May and go for a quick land grab so that the can DICTATE his own laws.
100 years since the first remembrance service and our fractured country, along with parts of Europe is moving ever further to the right and it does seem that some people have indeed "forgotten" how dangerous the extremists actually are.
We have Trump in the states, looking after the "Whites" first and a racist xenophobic Prime Minister over here already walking uncomfortably with Trumps hand very firmly up his backside.
Already, we are leaving our kids in a position where they will be financially less well off than their parents and now we give them Trump and Johnson. 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You are an extremely forgiving person.
Firstly, Boris and his friends in the ERG could have helped ensure that May's deal got through and then, having ensured that May had to go, he PROMISED, DO OR DIE, that we would be out at the end of October, in the full knowledge of how parliament was paralysed and now, he is trying to do EXACTLY the same as Mrs May and go for a quick land grab so that the can DICTATE his own laws.
100 years since the first remembrance service and our fractured country, along with parts of Europe is moving ever further to the right and it does seem that some people have indeed "forgotten" how dangerous the extremists actually are.
We have Trump in the states, looking after the "Whites" first and a racist xenophobic Prime Minister over here already walking uncomfortably with Trumps hand very firmly up his backside.
Already, we are leaving our kids in a position where they will be financially less well off than their parents and now we give them Trump and Johnson.
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Even more codswallop!
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| Quote IR80="IR80"Even more codswallop!'"
Care to elaborate or is that the best you can do ?
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| Quote IR80="IR80"Even more codswallop!'"
You dismiss everything everyone says. What do YOU think will happen?
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| Quote IR80="IR80"Even more codswallop!'"
It's your own reply that is codswallop.
You appear so utterly brainwashed by the Tory press that you can no longer recognise fact from fiction.
Please explain which part of my post is codswallop.
Just because it isn't what you believe, doesn.t make it wrong. Btw, the Earth is not flat 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You are an extremely forgiving person.
Firstly, Boris and his friends in the ERG could have helped ensure that May's deal got through and then, having ensured that May had to go, he PROMISED, DO OR DIE, that we would be out at the end of October, in the full knowledge of how parliament was paralysed and now, he is trying to do EXACTLY the same as Mrs May and go for a quick land grab so that the can DICTATE his own laws.
100 years since the first remembrance service and our fractured country, along with parts of Europe is moving ever further to the right and it does seem that some people have indeed "forgotten" how dangerous the extremists actually are.
We have Trump in the states, looking after the "Whites" first and a racist xenophobic Prime Minister over here already walking uncomfortably with Trumps hand very firmly up his backside.
Already, we are leaving our kids in a position where they will be financially less well off than their parents and now we give them Trump and Johnson.
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200+ Labour MPs didn't vote for May's deal that is the major reason it didn't go through - you can't absolve them - their red lines amounted to remain and everyone knew that it was disingenuous to suggest Labour were interested in any kind of leave.
May had a choice - her majority was only 17 so hardly huge - Johnson didn't have a majority at all so Parliament could function that manifested itself the Benn act which basically wrecked his negotiating position.
We look in China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, most of Africa etc where hard left policies don't really serve the freedom of the population and these are countries where Corbyn takes his influence. If you look at blood shed the likes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Castro have killed far more in the name of left wing dictatorships than anything undertaken by the far right.
Trump is interested in America first - he is antidote to Obama - who was a disaster as president possibly the worst in the last 100 years - American's hate Socialists.
What will make kids worse off is a Corbyn government - the scary bit is that him and McDonald and especially their sponsor Lansman just want to trial a government dominated economy its a game - there isn't an economy including China that doesn't give business the necessary room to breath that benefits its citizen's standard of living. Corbyn will kill business and he will raise taxes for ordinary citizens
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"200+ Labour MPs didn't vote for May's deal that is the major reason it didn't go through - you can't absolve them - their red lines amounted to remain and everyone knew that it was disingenuous to suggest Labour were interested in any kind of leave.
'" And again with the distortion of history.
It's
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When will you Tories ever take any responsibility for anything? You had a majority, you negotiated a pretty hard, Tory-style Brexit. Too many of you voted against it to get it through. Your reason: "it's the opposition's fault". It's tedious and the sad thing is some voters actually believe it.
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| Quote King Street Cat="King Street Cat"You dismiss everything everyone says. What do YOU think will happen?'"
I think we've established by now that thinking is not IR80's strong suit.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"And again with the distortion of history.
It's
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When will you Tories ever take any responsibility for anything? You had a majority, you negotiated a pretty hard, Tory-style Brexit. Too many of you voted against it to get it through. Your reason: "it's the opposition's fault". It's tedious and the sad thing is some voters actually believe it.'"
Yet the opposition campaigned on respecting the referendum - your absolution of the Labour party is simply getting repetitive and shows your blinkered view of the whole Brexit argument. Labour's red lines were so close to remain i.e. staying in the single market and the customs union and allowing the EU to determine our laws on workers rights and our laws on climate policy as well consumer rights whatever deal had been negotiated Labour would never have voted for it. You know it and so does the electorate.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"I think we've established by now that thinking is not IR80's strong suit.'"
Bile and insults are certainly top of your repotoire!
Anyway, I'm going for some chlorinated chicken whilst you go and warm up the next serving of codswallop between you and drownedpuss.
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