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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"As if Farage isn't bad enough, Ann Widdecombe is now advocating "gay cure" treatment. WTF is wrong with this party and by proxy, some of it's supporters.
Its starting to feel like Hitler or Franco could make a comeback
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And those she deems it necessary for will have to pay for it  privately
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| Quote Superblue="Superblue"And those she deems it necessary for will have to pay for it
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We'd be better off spending money on re-educating bigoted spinsters, something for which there is a definite cure 
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| Happy independence day! Leavers and remoaners.
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| Listening to Boris's spokesman on Newsnight yesterday evening, we now find that he is assuming that if it looks like the UK is going to leave with "no deal", the EU will come running back to the negotiating table and that he believes that there will be a new deal agreed and/or a free trade agreement with the EU.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
3 years on from the referendum and it still comes down to closing our eyes and hoping. It's no wonder that he had a fall out with the missus, she probably just told him that he's a plonker. 
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| Boris is in exactly the same situation as May was. Groundhog Day.
Until there’s a solution to the Irish border question then I can’t see it happening.
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| In some ways, I'm glad that Johnson's shot at the job he's always wanted, comes at a time when he is doomed to fail; he won't get the concessions from the EU that he is claiming, he won't get a re-hashed version of May's deal through Parliament, and Parliament won't allow no deal, despite the best efforts of 150,000 Daily Mail reading golf club chairmen - so either way, he's screwed.
There is now a growing likelihood that enough Tory MP's will put the brakes on and bring down the Government, which is a delicious prospect; Johnson as both the shortest serving PM in UK history, and the man who destroyed the Tories as an electoral prospect for a generation.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"In some ways, I'm glad that Johnson's shot at the job he's always wanted, comes at a time when he is doomed to fail; he won't get the concessions from the EU that he is claiming, he won't get a re-hashed version of May's deal through Parliament, and Parliament won't allow no deal, despite the best efforts of 150,000 Daily Mail reading golf club chairmen - so either way, he's screwed.
There is now a growing likelihood that enough Tory MP's will put the brakes on and bring down the Government, which is a delicious prospect; Johnson as both the shortest serving PM in UK history, and the man who destroyed the Tories as an electoral prospect for a generation.'"
That sounds like the best political synopsis of the last century.
Mrs May could well have left a little something around the rim of the poisoned chalice just to help things along
The greedy bar stewards are still promising tax cuts for those on over 50k, rather than reinstate some of the mental health and youth services that have been obliterated during the 10+ years of Tory austerity.
Just one cautionary note though, I believe that when the next election finally comes around, I'm not sure that Corbyn will be the many in charge.
There looks certain to be a coalition running the country, granted it will be different the Tory - DUP partnership that we have now but, we appear to be on the cusp of a whole new politics in the UK.
Maybe something good will come out of the referendum after all ?
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| Can’t see any party winning an overall majority in the current climate. It’s ironic that as parties themselves become more polarised to keep their most vocal supporters happy that they simultaneously alienate the support they need to form a majority.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Can’t see any party winning an overall majority in the current climate. It’s ironic that as parties themselves become more polarised to keep their most vocal supporters happy that they simultaneously alienate the support they need to form a majority.'"
As many have said, the political landscape is changing. I can see proportional representation within 10 years.
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| PR often leads to coalition government so smaller parties can have more of an influence, for good or bad, It also means governments can fall pretty quickly too when someone pulls out. Can’t see much of a majority for a no deal Brexit in the current parliament or any future one under PR. It’s just too divisive an issue, especially for the Conservatives who’ve struggled with Europe for nearly 50 years. PR if anything leads to policies being watered down in order to seek a compromise that will form a government.
Have any Labour MPs (apart from Hoey) said they’d support the Government in the event that there was a vote of no confidence triggered after a desire to go for no deal? I think the best the Government could hope for would be an abstention or two, and even then it’s a brave Labour MP that abstains on a vote of no confidence.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"PR often leads to coalition government so smaller parties can have more of an influence, for good or bad, It also means governments can fall pretty quickly too when someone pulls out. Can’t see much of a majority for a no deal Brexit in the current parliament or any future one under PR. It’s just too divisive an issue, especially for the Conservatives who’ve struggled with Europe for nearly 50 years. PR if anything leads to policies being watered down in order to seek a compromise that will form a government.
Have any Labour MPs (apart from Hoey) said they’d support the Government in the event that there was a vote of no confidence triggered after a desire to go for no deal? I think the best the Government could hope for would be an abstention or two, and even then it’s a brave Labour MP that abstains on a vote of no confidence.'"
You're right about not too many Labour MP's voting with the government in a no confidence vote but, even though a few Tories have said that they would do it, its equally difficult to imagine any Tories bringing their own government down.
Right now a GE looks like it may happen but, the uncertainty over Brexit is going to run and run and with the ecconomy virtually flat lining already, the short term, at best, looks difficult.
It makes my blood boil when the hard Brexit brigade trivialise the fall out from a potential "no deal" Brexit as "there may a period of adjustment", while still being in utter denial that we could go from flat line to another recession.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You're right about not too many Labour MP's voting with the government in a no confidence vote but, even though a few Tories have said that they would do it, its equally difficult to imagine any Tories bringing their own government down.
Right now a GE looks like it may happen but, the uncertainty over Brexit is going to run and run and with the ecconomy virtually flat lining already, the short term, at best, looks difficult.
It makes my blood boil when the hard Brexit brigade trivialise the fall out from a potential "no deal" Brexit as "there may a period of adjustment", while still being in utter denial that we could go from flat line to another recession.'"
Recession would be a given with Corbyn anywhere near power, that is for sure.
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