You may well be correct - however the human race does have a propensity to survival - Maslow's first level, we have already seen decreases in birth rates in more sophisticated societies

We (human beings) are too successful in breeding and survival for our own good and with greater numbers, increased life expectancy and the desire to consume more than to guy next door, this "success" will eventualy be our downfall.


Whilst some are still dying though starvation, others have greed which is just bloody horrible and they are happy to stuff themselves, whilst others die and spew out demands to "cut foreign aid" and "look after ourselves first".

If you look at the first generation of the truly wealthy the majority started with very little and they out-wealthed those that started with wealth for the very reason I stated if you stand still you will get passed by. There are exceptions Oligarchs and those in the middle east who own oil but they are in the minority. I would suggest its better to be born bright - the toffs need someone to invest in.


Compared to the industrial revolution not sure technology is moving faster what is moving very fast is medical science and this could be a real problem - is life expectancy going to be 120 in a hundred years?

Civilisation as we know it cannot continue , the developing nations now see the wealth the west has and want their share of it , so it's irrelevant what sort of population stagnation happens in the west

Politicians hope that science can prevent it , but it won't , once the oil starts to go things will become very nasty

As I now think back at the amount of natural resources and waste I personally have gone through in my 58 years , it is frightening , we are a parasite sucking the life out of the planet

Why?

These people you talk about all voted leave and their Facebook profile picture is of them, with “free Tommy” written underneath it

Ya back.

Because fall all its ills capitalism is still the best system yet divised to stimulate innovation and reward risk taking. The idea that the state owns everything and doles out pocket money to its populus doesn't appeal to me.

Socialism is great in theory it doesn't work in practise and the only people who truly prosper are those at the top that live like kings with greater access to the better things and it is in their interest to keep the population under control to protect their priviliged status.

You should have just given up there and then.

I don't think you have to choose either one or the other. I prefer a more moderate interpretation that sits somewhere in the middle and reins in the excesses of either system is best.

Agree a mixed economy works best - you are voting for the degree of control the government has - if you vote Corbyn the government will control more of the economy if you vote Tory less so I prefer the concept of the latter.

Problem with the left as I see it and I may be wrong - most are from well to do backgrounds Corbyn attended prep/grammar school something they would happily deny anyone else the opportunity to access. Abbott/Harman sent their kids to private school but thinks comprensive education is the way forward, David Lammy is another, Umunna anothrt etc.?

Therein lies the issue with the left - its about the elite left having access to things they would readily deny others. You cannot deny the human spirit's desire to better itself through hardwork/risk/innovation.

No, I only ever left the virtual terrace and still do not post on that forum.