What odd logic ... in fact no logic at all.

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It's the way I read it as though the former was a natural result of the latter, which in no way is a guaranteed outcome.
There was nothing wrong with what you wrote.
My mistake.

When Wilson eviscerated the mines and miners in the 60's, where was Benn, the "champion of the powerless"?

No that load of old fanny again?

Whenever right-wingers want to excuse Thatcher's anhialation of the mining industry, they always bring up the fact that Wilson closed more pits. They also conveniently forget to mention that the NUM, however reluctantly, went along with the closures because they accepted the argument that the pits earmarked for closure were exhausted. They also worked with the Labout government of the day to ensure as many miners as possible were redeployed in other, productive pits.

But Thatcher wasn't going to close all them pits didn't you know?
It's all Scargill's fault that the UK mining industry is deceased, apparently.

No, there was only ever a dozen pits marked for closure, all that bother over a dozen exhausted pits.

Until the truth came out of course.

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169,000 people thrown on the scrap heap by Wilson and the ensuing silence from "Quisling" Benn.

Anything to back that figure up?

Strangely enough, there wasn't much of a murmur from the NUM either. I lived through that era, I don't have to rely on bollox soundbites from right-wingers

As I recall, you're from Hull. That's hardly living la Dolce Vita at the best of times, so just what it must have been like in the era of 3 day weeks, power cuts, weekly strikes and the Winter of Discontent with fridge trucks being used to store the unburied dead etc etc does stretch the term living a fair old bit. Perhaps the disappointment of such an existence is responsible for your attitude today?

In any case, the NUM were the architects of their own destiny, and more fool them for the outcome to their year long strike. A strike called without a ballot of the members as I recall.

Oh, and all those gormless folk squacking that Margaret Thatcher lied about the amount of pits which were earmarked for closure. Since when has any General in history, ever published a comprehensive list of targets and numbers prior to a battle? Deception is an essential and powerful weapon in any conflict. Thatcher's aims were not only to defeat Scargill, but to humiliate the entire NUM, and by extension other militants, so that once and for all, the UK was rid of these particular Union bully boys. It was Game, Set and Match to the grocer's daughter when the dust settled.

The only miners I have any sympathy for were the guys in Nottinghamshire who saw through Scargill's little game , and set up their own Union. Unfortunately for them, they were shafted by the leader in traditional nose in the trough style a few years later.

The Old Girl must be sing up there on her cloud that you lot are still bitching 30 years on.....

LOL.

Now give us your real opinion.