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| Quote Standee="Standee"does it make you any less obsessed and boring?
given that you seem to hate most things about the UK, why not go live somewhere else?'"
No idea where you get the notion that I hate most things about the UK, I love it, unashamedly.
I do have opinions of what could be better or worse and, as this is a discussion board, I discuss.
Of course, if you don't like it, you could follow your own advice.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"That's twice you have gone on a personal attack when you've run out of an argument.'"
No, it's twice i've commented that the poster in question is like a stuck record.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"No, it's twice i've commented that the poster in question is like a stuck record.'"
Twice you have failed to counter the argument and, like the stuck record, made the same irrelevant comment.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Twice you have failed to counter the argument and, like the stuck record, made the same irrelevant comment.'"
There isn't a counter argument to "I don't like Tesco", "I don't like the Monarchy", "I don't like the Coalition", they are all just opinions based on a personal set of values.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"There isn't a counter argument to "I don't like Tesco", "I don't like the Monarchy", "I don't like the Coalition", they are all just opinions based on a personal set of values.'"
If my posts were so simplistic, you'd have a point.
I know you can read so why not engage with the arguments (in this thread, about supply chain control)?
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"If my posts were so simplistic, you'd have a point.
I know you can read so why not engage with the arguments?'"
Because engaging in arguments with people engrained in their opinions is as pointless as it is frustrating.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Because engaging in arguments with people engrained in their opinions is as pointless as it is frustrating.'"
Supply chain control ... do you have any views?
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| The issue for me isn't so much the mix of meat in the products (although if I want beef or lamb or whatever clearly i should be able to rely 100% on the product being what it says on its particular tin). No, the sale of any meat from places like Tesco carries with it an implicit guarantee that, whatever meat it is, they [iknow[/i where it has come from, what it is, how it was produced, and are happy it conforms to all applicable standards.
Thus the problem with unexpectedly finding a different ingredient isn't what that ingredient is, it's the obvious point that as it shouldn't be there, by definition Tesco are buying meat products where unbeknownst to them they suddenly cannot, at all, rely on anything the supplier says about the safety of their meat. Because somewhere along the line, somebody is [imaking money[/i by chucking horse into the mix (and would of course not be doing it for any other reason - as has been pointed out, properly produced horsemeat is not cheap).
The clear implication is that padding out with horsemeat made somebody money, because the horsemeat they used was nearer "unfit for human consumption" standard than French gourmet standard. Maybe someone, just for instance, nicked a container load destined for the dogfood factory.
So It's not that it's horse. That is an issue, but safety is the big thing, and type of meat is very secondary. It's that they've no idea what state that meat was in.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The issue for me isn't so much the mix of meat in the products (although if I want beef or lamb or whatever clearly i should be able to rely 100% on the product being what it says on its particular tin). No, the sale of any meat from places like Tesco carries with it an implicit guarantee that, whatever meat it is, they [iknow[/i where it has come from, what it is, how it was produced, and are happy it conforms to all applicable standards.
Thus the problem with unexpectedly finding a different ingredient isn't what that ingredient is, it's the obvious point that as it shouldn't be there, by definition Tesco are buying meat products where unbeknownst to them they suddenly cannot, at all, rely on anything the supplier says about the safety of their meat. Because somewhere along the line, somebody is [imaking money[/i by chucking horse into the mix (and would of course not be doing it for any other reason - as has been pointed out, properly produced horsemeat is not cheap).
The clear implication is that padding out with horsemeat made somebody money, because the horsemeat they used was nearer "unfit for human consumption" standard than French gourmet standard. Maybe someone, just for instance, nicked a container load destined for the dogfood factory.
So It's not that it's horse. That is an issue, but safety is the big thing, and type of meat is very secondary. It's that they've no idea what state that meat was in.'"
I couldn't agree more - the issue here is about appropriate labelling of food and the retailer having some realiable information about the provenance of what they are selling; if there is a scandal, it's that. I don't suppose many consumers will question themselves - is it reasonable for example to expect to buy a packet of burgers for ten bob and expect them to be made with the finest beef cuts? You are certainly eating mechanically reclaimed 'meat', consisting of lips, eyelids and s, but I suppose having made that choice, you are entitled to know that you're eating mechanically reclaimed cows aresholes as opposed to horses.
The wider issue about the morality of eating a horse is a bit lost on me; if you're ok with killing animals to eat, I don't really understand how the line is drawn, other than the social construct that affords horses with more likeability than cows.
I'm a vegetarian by the way, hence the smugness.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I'm a vegetarian by the way'"
You must be knackered after typing all that 
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| Quote John_D="John_D"You must be knackered after typing all that
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Cheeky sod.
Some of us manage to be (relatively) functioning members of society you know.
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| If we are eating horse in our burgers we deserve to know the tr-hoof.
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