Quote Mintball="Mintball"Take buildings: IIRC, the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff was built with a 30-year life in mind. The building I'm sitting in right now has a similar lifespan, apparently – although presumably that doesn't include the century-old listed bit that's been incorporated in the new building and totally renovated. But this is bonkers.'" The only reference I can find to a lifespan of the Millenium Stadium is this www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynatio ... _page.html referring to a problem with some of the concrete. However, in a country known for keeping dilapidated stadia in use for far too long, perhaps a planned intention to maintain a schedule of updating or replacing it's sports stadia is no bad thing.

Quote Mintball="Mintball"Take buildings: IIRC, the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff was built with a 30-year life in mind. The building I'm sitting in right now has a similar lifespan, apparently – although presumably that doesn't include the century-old listed bit that's been incorporated in the new building and totally renovated. But this is bonkers.'" The only reference I can find to a lifespan of the Millenium Stadium is this www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynatio ... _page.html referring to a problem with some of the concrete. However, in a country known for keeping dilapidated stadia in use for far too long, perhaps a planned intention to maintain a schedule of updating or replacing it's sports stadia is no bad thing.

When I entered the workforce at 17 years of age it was into the building sector, electrical contracting to be exact.

38 years later I would naturally expect those electrical installations that I first worked on to have been renewed by now, but I'm actually seeing the buildings themselves being demolished, not renovated, actually flattened and replaced



Madness.

Why don't you just continue to use the earlier version of Lightroom?

Her's a tip.

Don't waste your money on Calgon, put the cash in a jar and use it to buy your next washing machine, I bet you'll still have some change left.

I've lived in hard water areas all my life, Hull, Staffs & Somerset are all noted for very hard water and have never suffered a failure to any machine that could be attributed to limescale

Well chips fail for starters. Plus there will be other components in there that aren't semiconductors that are capable of failure. Entropy always wins.


Do you need the new version? What does it do that your current version doesn't and that's essential for you?

Building in backwards compatibility isn't always possible.

Makes me laugh, though, you go into Sonic or wherever and there's a choice of a hundred washing machines. Even the cheapest will do a job for you and will be guaranteed for at least a year, but surely everyone understands the concept of you get what you pay for?

How do you think a manufacturer makes a washing machine with superficially comparable features and looks to on three or four time or more the price? Perhaps, just perhaps, compromising on build quality / cheaper materials? is this a shock?

Extended guarantees are a real rip off, but if you want your kit to be "guaranteed" for the indefinite future you have that option too.

Solid state electronic items that don't take the physical stick tend to be very long lived, in my experience. Can't remember the last time we bought a telly, for example, that wasn't working perfectly adequately many, many years later.

it's not so much "planned" obscolescence, as simply working to a price.

My OT comment ... You're the first person I've "met" (outside of watch forums... and I only "lurk" on those, I don't post) who I have seen/heard mention the co-axial escapement.
You now have a place in my esteem so don't go spoiling it.


If Omega made co-axial escapement watches whose aesthetic appealed to me, I might have saved up and bought one ... but they're all a bit blingy for my taste.
Nonetheless, your post is absolutely correct.
Yours El Barbudo (from henceforth aka Valjoux Fan)


Our washing machine is 12 years old and is doing great.
It did break down once and was fixed by a new circuit board ... which puzzled me, as the moving parts (which you might expect to wear out first) were all still fine.

I'm well aware that you get what you pay for.

The AEG that broke down recently was not the cheapest machine available, but was chosen partly because of it's environmental record, although that meant spending more.

The new one was not cheap either – a Bosch – and came out highly in [/iWhich?[/i analysis, and also has very good energy and water efficiency levels.

We're everywhere. You can usually spot us because we look at a persons wrist first before their face.




I'm flattered.




You mean ETA fan.

Meant to say, have you seen [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17523049this?[/url

You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it.

iPhones are the worst for planned obsolence. I had one that lasted 17 months, just none month short of a contract then all of a sudden it stoped working.

I even had to pick all the bits of glass out of my trouser pockets before I dared put them back in the washing machine.

Quote Mintball="Mintball"Meant to say, have you seen [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17523049this?[/url You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it. '" Much appreciated. A whole host of forums and blogs that are dedicated to horology usually keep me up to date. A favorite of mine. www.hodinkee.com/ Just to keep this thread on topic. I most be very lucky or I just look after products better than others. But I always seem to make things last for ever. Both my oven and fridge are pushing the 20 year barrier and my boiler/central heating is 38 years old this year and still going strong. Perhaps it helps that I'm stuck in time warp myself.

Quote Mintball="Mintball"Meant to say, have you seen [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17523049this?[/url You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it. '" Much appreciated. A whole host of forums and blogs that are dedicated to horology usually keep me up to date. A favorite of mine. www.hodinkee.com/ Just to keep this thread on topic. I most be very lucky or I just look after products better than others. But I always seem to make things last for ever. Both my oven and fridge are pushing the 20 year barrier and my boiler/central heating is 38 years old this year and still going strong. Perhaps it helps that I'm stuck in time warp myself.