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| Quote: Chris28 "It's similar in my line of work. Stupid refusals challenged and around 40% allowed, increasing every year. The staff are under so much pressure to push decisions out that they don't consider the cases properly (or in DLA etc, I suspect that the push from above is to tighten the criteria so much that refusal is the only option).'"
Bob on there Chris. Just a few examples of questions on my ESA50 form and you can make up your own minds as to whether they are loaded or not[iCan you reach above your head? Yes/No
Can you pick up an empty cardboard Box/ Yes/No
Can you transfer from one chair to another with someones help? Yes/No
Can you hold a pen? Yes/No
Can you press down one computer keyboard letter/touch dial pad on telephone? Yes/No
Can you mobilise 50m even with aids (including wheelchairs, motorised aids, crutches and walking sticks) Yes/No.[/i
No wonder everyone is failing when you can only answer yes/no and there isn't room to eleborate. But the likes of the DM would have you believe that 8 out of 10 ESA claimants an work. They failed to mention that on appeal it would only be around 1 out of 10.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "
I hope you are proud of yourself for voting this shower in and what they are doing to me and 3.5 million other disabled people.'"
Get a grip please.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Get a grip please.'"
I don't think its me thats lost the grip, you need to look a lot closer to the Tories for that.
Nice to know what you think of the disabled of this country, shows you for what you are.
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| Yes everyone who voted for the tories must hate diabled people. Like I said, get a grip, you ae hysterical.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Yes everyone who voted for the tories must hate diabled people. Like I said, get a grip, you ae hysterical.'"
I have every right to be "hysterical" after what the Tories are doing. I will lose all my income in September because Mr Cameron doesn't think I am ill anymore. Cancer patients can only be on Contributory ESA for one year, children born disabled will not be able to claim ESA when they reach 18. Now today we find out we will have to stack shelves at Tescos for nothing but our benefit. Just a thought but will disabled peoples carers be working stacking shelves along side their patients too?
Again, I'm not the one whose "lost" the grip. You voted for them, you reap what you sow.
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| and why do you think they have to make cuts....go on take a wild guess...
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| Quote: Ajw71 "and why do you think they have to make cuts....go on take a wild guess...'"
Is that my fault ... go on take a guess given that I'm neither a banker or Gordon Brown
and is that a reason to take ALL my income from me?
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| Quote: Hull White Star "Is that my fault ... go on take a guess given that I'm neither a banker or Gordon Brown
and is that a reason to take ALL my income from me?'"
Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?
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Quote: Ajw71 "Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?'"
Yes, drastically. They have overhauled the descriptors for ESA & DLA making them loaded questions. I really think you should read up on ESA & DLA/PIP before you make any further comments.
I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well.
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html
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Quote: Ajw71 "Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?'"
Yes, drastically. They have overhauled the descriptors for ESA & DLA making them loaded questions. I really think you should read up on ESA & DLA/PIP before you make any further comments.
I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well.
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?'"
Do you not bother reading anything apart from tory bull[is[/ihit?
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| Quote: Hull White Star "
I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well.
It is very good, as is this ...
rlhttps://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/02/17/why-david-cameron-owes-unemployed-single-mothers-an-apology/rl
Just to summarise the research that Cameron is basing his targeting of "problem families" at, that is not families who have problems, but families who cause most of society's ills, families who, in a speech, he describes as "Family's from Hell" and who he considers are responsible for "Drug addiction. Alcohol abuse. Crime. A culture of disruption and irresponsibility"
Read this list...
a) no parent in work
b) poor quality housing,
c) no parent with qualifications,
d) mother with mental health problems
e) one parent with longstanding disability/illness
f) family has low income,
g) Family cannot afford some food/clothing items
Perm any five from seven and you are in the cross hairs of Camerons gun sights and he wants you targeting and punishing.
Its that easy, tick any five boxes and you are scum.
These are supposed to be intelligent people who are leading our country, I cannot believe that they themselves believe this stuff, in which case their spoon feeding of such cr@p to us summarises what they think we are - we're stupid.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "Get a grip please.'"
I reckon there are days when she'd love to, unfortunately her physical condition often prevents such a simple act of gripping anything.
Are you really such a heartless c**t as you'd like everyone to believe?
Edited - BG
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| Quote: cod'ead "I reckon there are days when she'd love to, unfortunately her physical condition often prevents such a simple act of gripping anything.
Are you really such a heartless c[iu[/int as you'd like everyone to believe?'"
I'm sorry but because she has a disability that doesn't mean I have to agree with every word she says.
I have never said anything about her disability so why resort to personal abuse?
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| Quote: Ajw71 "I'm sorry but because she has a disability that doesn't mean I have to agree with every word she says.
I have never said anything about her disability so why resort to personal abuse?'"
It's simpleu[/int, pure & simple.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "These are supposed to be intelligent people who are leading our country'"
Since when?
Don't confuse education with intelligence. This cabinet is the thickest we've had in decades.
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