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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The Ched Evans circus rumbles on, but now apparently the alleged victim's father has asked the A-G to take down Evan's website which explains why he still maintains his innocence, and there is some suggestion of a possibility of contempt proceedings.
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Has asked ? or has been asked by?
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The Ched Evans circus rumbles on, but now apparently the alleged victim's father has asked the A-G to take down Evan's website which explains why he still maintains his innocence, and there is some suggestion of a possibility of contempt proceedings.
This raises issues much wider than just Evans, but are also relevant to the cause celebre of "remorse" and "acceptance of guilt". If you had been wrongly convicted of a criminal offence - ANY criminal offence - and after you had served your time or done your punishment, would you feel obliged to fake remorse and lie that you had done it? Or would you feel entitled to stick to your principles and maintain your innocence? IF a person - not Evans, but ANYBODY - believes they are innocent, I don't see on what basis in a free society they should be compelled to pretend acceptance of guilt, or silenced from asserting their innocence. It is of course also going to become increasingly topical, as Grayling's continued savaging of legal aid and criminal defence can only lead to a considerable increase in miscarriages of justice.'"
Completely agree.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Has asked ? or has been asked by?'"
Has askedThe attorney general's office is considering whether a website supporting convicted rapist Ched Evans breached contempt of court laws.
This follows a letter of complaint from the victim's father in November.
A spokeswoman confirmed that a senior lawyer was "considering the issues" and said it was hoped a conclusion would be reached "shortly"'"
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Has asked
Ta. Didn't realise it wasn't the family's to take down themselves.
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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| Quote: Chris28 "Ta. Didn't realise it wasn't the family's to take down themselves.'"
Are you getting a bit confuddled?
Why on earth would the victim of Evans's offence put up a website proclaiming his (Evans) innocence?
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| Quote: cod'ead "Are you getting a bit confuddled?
Why on earth would the victim of Evans's offence put up a website proclaiming his (Evans) innocence?'"
I assumed it was Evan's family that had set up the website (certainly not the victim) but its his "supporters". That was the confusion.
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| Not exactly sexual abuse, but today all remaining assault charges against footballer rlRavel Morrisonrl were dropped, following his defence team having obtained CCTV of the alleged assault on his then girlfriend, which showed that, er, there wasn't one, moreover she having fallen to the ground, he in fact went over and helped her up, and helped her to a car.
In November, Morrison, who is from Manchester, was cleared of threatening to throw acid in the face of his ex-girlfriend, have her killed and blow up her house. CPS also withdrew the allegation he harassed her over four years.
So he leaves court an innocent man, but must have been really put through the mill, and faced jail, ever since the allegations were first made. He was initially refused bail, and led handcuffed down to the cells. The claims he had assaulted his girlfriend and her mother were widely reported and it must have been devastating for him. Let alone the huge cost to the taxpayer that the process will have incurred. Had the CCTV not emerged, he may well have been potted, and served more time, like Evans. Whether charges are brought against the girlfriend is something CPS will now have to consider but she must have known that the original assault outside the club never happened, yet saw him remanded in custody and persisted in her story until the truth emerged.
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50733_1530270912.jpg [color=#000000:ogl9gbum]"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."[/color:ogl9gbum]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50733.jpg |
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| I expect there will be all sorts of revelations now Leon Brittain has popped his clogs.
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: King Street Cat "I expect there will be all sorts of revelations now Leon Brittain has popped his clogs.'"
Two potential Fernbridge witnesses dead in a week?
As for Brittan, I won't be shedding any tears. He was the Home Secretary that turned the police into a goverment-sponsored paramilitary organisation during the miners' strike.
He can rot with Thatcher
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50733_1530270912.jpg [color=#000000:ogl9gbum]"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."[/color:ogl9gbum]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50733.jpg |
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| Quote: cod'ead "Two potential Fernbridge witnesses dead in a week?'"
Social media will be awash with conspiracy theories.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Two potential Fernbridge witnesses dead in a week?'"
Who's the other one?
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| Quote: Chris28 "Who's the other one?'"
John Stingemore
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Social media will be awash with conspiracy theories.'"
Brittan was named in certain sources ages before he died. The whole 'lost' dossier episode stinks. The government don't appear to even want to start the enquiry into establishment sex abuse but they will rush through trivial matters like plain cigarette packaging.
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| Kitty, I mean Cliff is in the news again. There's no smoke without fire.
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| Quote: King Street Cat " There's no smoke without fire.'"
You are...
...and I claim my £5.
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