The world has changed, stop hankering back to the past, we aren't going to return there. The Chinese and Indians have picked up the steel and mines and we have to accept that. Its not Thatchers fault its just the way the world has evolved, they can do it cheaper.

As for unions they are old hat. Militant swines typically led by scousers and jocks.

The opportunity may be there to go to University but, the prospect of coming out with debts of 50k plus, frightens many people off.
If you come form a decent family, even with reasonable income, the very though of your kids having such debt, before they start work or looking for a house etc is just plain scary, especially if you have 2 or 3 children.
Of course, the debt is theirs and they may never have to pay it off but, its one hell of a way to start your adult life.

All decided by people who either benefited from a free university education, or who come from backgrounds where money is not even a consideration.

The very definition of pulling up the ladder behind you.

Im not hankering back to the past - it's a fact of life that work opportunities for the non-acedemically minded are limited and exploititive.

If we are serious about our young people becoming engineers etc, why the hell are the tories chronically underfunding the schools system, while cutting tax for the wealthiest?

As for Unions being old hat, I'm sure you know what conditions were like before unionisation. If not, go to the mining museum or similar. Absolutely critical in winning a lot of the rights we enjoy today. As automation comes ever more into the workplace, we are going to need to band together or all end up redundant.

Again hankering to the past. The unions have done a great job for workers rights and working environments but today we are moving to a service based industry where offices are healthy places to work..... Like UKIP there job is done

How can you fight automation and computers? If they are coming they are coming. We've more people in work today than ever. Why do you get so worried and focus on the negatives.


Money isn't the answer to everything. Its value for money. More schools are meeting the outstanding or equivalent standards which means more kids are being educated in high quality environments.

Every union rep I've met in Australia was a Scot. Hope this helps.

The labour manifesto has been leaked. They had the Labour election coordinator on BBC this morning and listening to him was comedy gold. They are completely delusional.

Nationalising many areas including energy, rail.... He wouldn't commit to cheaper fares when pressed repeatedly which is all the commuter really cares about.(surely there has to be a benefit to the punter other than knowing the profits are not going to state owned train companies in Germany or Hong Kong)

Do they not have someone in the team who has the intelligence to realise you need to connect with the 'many and not the few'??

Maybe Corbyns Moral compass points in the right direction but Jesus what a shambles Labour are. It makes the election outcome all the more boring and predictable. Its just about how many seats(and majority) the Tories will get. The good thing is we will have untouchable party in place to take us through Brexit and the 3 years after untouched. Q the lefties.

You're lucky they are not enhanced by Scousers. Union reps are Militant, opinionated, one eyed, g0ges with no concern for the future of the companies. I understand representation but not the way they operate. The good thing is they are dyeing out as they offer very little in this day and age. You only have to look at the Union Demi God Scargill living his life out in luxury in a penthouse in London on the back of the miners unions subscriptions. They have no morals, its all about them.

What is it with Jocks that they need to drop in the word 'Scotland' every second paragraph.

Interesting Labour manifesto - re-nationalise the trains, increase CT to pay for everything. Typical Labour all the focus is on throwing money at things and things will improve not how can we run things more efficiently. Education is an interesting battleground.

Re-nationalise Royal Mail, re-nationalise utility companies

Increase union powers - are these people on a suicide mission? You can't bite the hand that feeds you!!

How is all this funded - seriously the CT is delusional as is increases taxation on high earners both will yield negative returns

We should scrap the armed forces - Corbyn doesn't want them to go into action!!

The Labour party can't even keep the manifesto secret until the official launch - the party is completely disfunctional

Of course he can't commit to lower train fares until we know what the terms of the deal will be. Unlike the Tories who make overblown promises on everything and then subsequently fail to keep.

Debt saddled on the aspirational, workers rights being eroded, working class people struggling to buy their own house, schools sending begging letters, NHS in ruins as they starve it to make privatisation attractive etc.

It's not about left vs right, its about top vs bottom. The tories urinate down our backs and tell us its raining. How much longer can they continue to blame Blair for their own failings?

The wealth flows ever upward and the drawbridge is closed behind them. At least Labours manifesto will make it easier for our kids to get on in life by increasing social mobility.

You can't argue with someone with views like that. Unfortunately for you, you are going to spend the next 5 years very frustrated. It gives you something to talk over in the pub. Stay frustrated. Leave the go getters to get on. I've got a south west train to catch.

Happy with most of what's in the manifesto. A lot of it makes sense like re-nationalising the railways.

They'll never get the chance to put it into practice which is a shame.

Also a shame that some people have such a jaundiced view of unions. I've been in and out of a few in my career. They're not all run by Trotskyite loonies. For instance I was in Prospect for a few years which was eminently reasonable. My rep was even a Conservative Party member (he was from Cornwall - not Scotland or Liverpool).

I'm getting on just fine - managed to set myself up during latter days of Blairs reign. I know a lot of people who are really struggling since Tories got in and I'm tired of being served crap services by these privatised companies- while they cream millions off the top!

Enjoy your overcrowded train journey!

Quote: TrinityIHC "I'm tired of being served crap services by these privatised companies- while they cream millions off the top!'" Indeed. This c0ck up: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989225 Led to this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35793073 And eventually this sort of thing happens: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-39020384 As predicted here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... ill-occur/ But as always with the Tories "privatisation good publicly owned bad" shame they're slaves to flawed idiology.

Quote: TrinityIHC "I'm tired of being served crap services by these privatised companies- while they cream millions off the top!'" Indeed. This c0ck up: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989225 Led to this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35793073 And eventually this sort of thing happens: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-39020384 As predicted here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... ill-occur/ But as always with the Tories "privatisation good publicly owned bad" shame they're slaves to flawed idiology.

If you look at Southern rail you can see why people have a dim opinion of unions. It would be a bloodbath if the rail network were nationalised