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| Quote: Adeybull "I wonder how many of those people have "commented" (I use that term loosely) based on direct personal experience of that era - '"
Very few, I should imagine.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Indeed.
Except I see numerous people blaming Thatcher for things that happened under, and were the responsibility of subsequent (or sometimes earlier) governments. I wonder how many of those people have "commented" (I use that term loosely) based on direct personal experience of that era - and the dreadful few years before then - and how many are just repeating what they have been told or choose to believe?
And with that, I am definitely out of here again, indefinitely, before I am physically sick.'"
Thatcher was an ideologue. We havent really had a different ideology since her. Rightly, she is not only criticised (and praised) for her actions, but also the continuation of the ideology she sold.
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| Quote: Adeybull "
And with that, I am definitely out of here again, indefinitely, before I am physically sick.'"
I reckon there'll be a few in the mining communities feeling a bit nauseous after tonight's festivities!
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| Quote: Durham Giant "David Hopper, general secretary of the Durham Miners' Association, said her death was a "great day" for coal miners.
The ex-miner, who turned 70 today, spent all of his working life at Wearmouth Colliery.
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It closed 20 years ago so presumably and according to that comment he retired at 50 ?
Not a bad old screw if you can get away with it - such a shame that as president of the DMA he turned a blind eye, or maybe even encouraged the in-fighting between his members especially as the Northumberland pits closed during and immediately after the strike and the NCB tried to amalgamate those left of the workforce who wanted to continue in the industry by transporting them to the Durham pits on a daily basis where they were met with intimidation, ignorance and some quite disgusting acts of petty discrimination designed to ward off their "brothers" who dared to come and try and amalgamate into "their" pit (defecating in a persons bait box being a common practice).
Nope, I'm afraid that we were well rid of those types of industrial practices.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Labour had plenty of time to reverse the policy. They didn't and therefore, given that they were in power for a long period subsequent to Thatcher's dismissal from office, the responsibility is theirs. And if you voted for the Labour Party during their time in office, the responsibility is also yours.'"
Political parties rarely reverse legislation that previous governments have put in.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Labour had plenty of time to reverse the policy. They didn't and therefore, given that they were in power for a long period subsequent to Thatcher's dismissal from office, the responsibility is theirs. And if you voted for the Labour Party during their time in office, the responsibility is also yours.'"
That Labour didn't reverse the policy does not absolve Thatcher of all blame. And that there are only two parties with a realistic shout of securing a parliamentary majority - neither of whom would have reversed the policy - does not mean that the electorate are responsible for the policy or the problems it has caused.
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| Quote: Adeybull "I wonder how many of those people have "commented" (I use that term loosely) based on direct personal experience of that era - and the dreadful few years before then - and how many are just repeating what they have been told or choose to believe?'"
So to comment on domestic violence, rape, torture, murder etc, you have to have personal experience? Give over.
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| Quote: JerryChicken "It closed 20 years ago so presumably and according to that comment he retired at 50 ?
Not a bad old screw if you can get away with it - such a shame that as president of the DMA he turned a blind eye, or maybe even encouraged the in-fighting between his members especially as the Northumberland pits closed during and immediately after the strike and the NCB tried to amalgamate those left of the workforce who wanted to continue in the industry by transporting them to the Durham pits on a daily basis where they were met with intimidation, ignorance and some quite disgusting acts of petty discrimination designed to ward off their "brothers" who dared to come and try and amalgamate into "their" pit (defecating in a persons bait box being a common practice).
Nope, I'm afraid that we were well rid of those types of industrial practices.'"
Cannot comment on your example but i do know that after the strike the NCB were quite happy to foster conflicts between workers. They often tried to use workers from different p[its to undermine workers who were already employed. I have no doubt that there were petty acts but that is what happens when the unions lost and workers became indavidualised and atomised and scared for their own livelihods.
Moving scabs to different pits and then sacking those who would not work with them.
If ting in a scabs bait box was all that happened to them they were lucky
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| Quote: The Video Ref "A rather embarrasing thread with many people who should know better behaving in a child-like manner.
It takes a strange and depraved person to rejoice in the death of another human being.'"
There must have been a hell of a lot of depaived people around when Hitler died then!
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Cannot comment on your example but i do know that after the strike the NCB were quite happy to foster conflicts between workers. They often tried to use workers from different p[its to undermine workers who were already employed. I have no doubt that there were petty acts but that is what happens when the unions lost and workers became indavidualised and atomised and scared for their own livelihods.
Moving scabs to different pits and then sacking those who would not work with them.
If ting in a scabs bait box was all that happened to them they were lucky'"
These weren't scabs, they were miners who had stood alongside each other on picket lines who then found that their sea pit would not re-open and so were bussed to another on a daily basis as the offered alternative to redundancy, only to find that their "brothers" suddenly weren't acting like "brothers" anymore.
Its understandable in a way, the pits were judged on their efficiency and closed if they became too expensive to operate, if you're suddenly incurring a big increase in your wages bill because you're bringing in five busloads of colliers from the north every day then your pit isn't going to be as efficient as it was - and more importantly your own overtime and your production bonuses go with it.
Its all about money, the brotherhood of the union was just a sham.
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| Lets face it. this was the one subject that the sin bin has been built on since the day rlfans went live, Thatchers demise would have always had this thread, it's had enough starters in the past to know where it would go.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Indeed.
Except I see numerous people blaming Thatcher for things that happened under, and were the responsibility of subsequent (or sometimes earlier) governments. I wonder how many of those people have "commented" (I use that term loosely) based on direct personal experience of that era - and the dreadful few years before then - and how many are just repeating what they have been told or choose to believe?
And with that, I am definitely out of here again, indefinitely, before I am physically sick.'"
Brilliant. 'I ask questions - and then I eff off before anyone can challenge the points I raise, and I say that I'm not coming back.'
Or 'cowardice', as most people would call it.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Very few, I should imagine.'"
You imagine wrongly then
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