After hearing that frontline doctors and nurses were using bin bags as ppe , Matt Hancock has started a “Donate your Binbags “ campaign

He’s serious.

Twenty eight dead NHS staff.

Many more seriously ill. Including the three nurses pictured last week using bin bags as protection.


Fucking Tories killing workers again

Postal workers are not all employed as postmen / women.
Have you never seen inside a sorting office ?

Didn't staff in Warrington walk out earlier in the week?

By heavily unionized I assume you mean democratic.

That's an Oxymoron if there was one Unions and democracy

Well, if the rules on union voting were applied to GEs and Brexit then we wouldn't have a Tory government and we wouldn't be leaving the EU. So, what form of democracy would you prefer?

What are you talking about - perhaps if we all followed what went on at the Unite at Falkirk

My point about the unions are that they are not democratic - if the all the people at their HQ had to go on to strike/no pay when they had a strike great - but they don't so the strikers are political football stuck in the middle with the most to use. In my experience they serve no real purpose - there are laws about working conditions, trying to remove anyone is now so difficult, wage negotiations are perfectly possible and have more to do with market conditions in my world lack of HGV drivers - they serve no purpose in fact in the private sector they are a distinct disadvantage to employment. In the public sector perhaps it is a different world?

Unions will do the wrong thing in one chapel so as to prevent the same situation happening elsewhere - its madness.

An official strike requires democratic support from members. The union HQ going on strike in sympathy would be an act of stupid self harm. It isn’t like a hunger strike.

Those laws about working conditions mightn’t exist without trade unions. While wage negotiations are possible, it is easier to ‘pick-off’ individual or small negotiators. That is, for example, a big part of why European healthcare is a lot cheaper than in the US, where a fragmented private insurance system lacks the power to secure better immediate value for its customers.

A lot of HR people do a fantastic job but ultimately they exist to protect the employer’s interests, leaving individual employees vulnerable to abuses of power.

It’s sad that we have had such an adversarial, distrustful relationship between workers and bosses in the UK and battled to compromises so often where interests diverged rather than finding them through partnership. The growing gig economy will require new approaches and the younger generation will have to work that out in their own way.

The great problem is that the world & its mother needs ppe all at the same time & there wasn't enough stock piled anywhere because the problem & need wasn't anticipated. Perhaps a future solution would be to go back to fabric ppe that can be washed ,sterilised & reused.
My son is a HGV driver for a well known company delivering to small supermarkets & their pandemic ppe consists of 1 sanitised wipe per day.

Is Sin Bin sponsored by Momentum?