What I do find puzzling in all of this is: South Yorkshire Police couldn't be bothered to properly investigate these allegations over the years but sent 20 coppers down to Berkshire for a ride in a helicopter over Cliff Richard's flat

I thought the same. They covered up Hillsborough, covered up child abuse yet showboated a search of Cliff Richard's flat based on one allegation. They must really hate the Millennium Prayer.

I forgot about that.

Maybe they did have justification then?

Everybody cares about "vulnerable children".

Apart from when they watch Benefits Street and Jeremy Kyle. Then they are "white trash" and "chav scum" and they are probably hated as much as "Paki's".

No doubt a host of politicians will be condemning SYP and SYSS. But many of these politicians will have also been massively cutting budgets and forcing extreme targets on the police at the same time.

I think convincing a social worker that you're a victim of crime will be very easy. In fact in many of the cases in this report the victims insisted that they weren't victims and that they were loved by their abusers. If the police are not informed of these allegations then how in hell are they supposed to investigate them?

An excellent assessment in the Mail [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2736283/From-sex-abuse-gangs-jihadis-State-s-fear-racist-letting-evil-thrive.htmltoday[/url by manzoor Moghal, which cuts right through the racist bull claims regurgitated by some of the more cretinous posters on here.

Your displaying the exact attitude that lead to the abuse of these girls. The people that failed to act in system are nothing but enablers.

This crime had a racial element, no denying that it was a hate crime. The racist and cultural attitudes of Pakistani men was at the route of all this. This a thing that been repeated throughout the Country that has a large lower income Pakistani Population. They will be no moving forward until this fact is acknowledged, race relations will continue to decline and girls will continue to get abused.

Fell free to split quote me and look in my closet.

It depends on your definition of abuse. At the docs recently I was sat there when a Pakistani woman came in followed by 3 more. All were wearing the full length full-face black monty. Tiny slit for eyes. From their assortment of sizes I would guess the 3 girls were aged something like 10 - 15. They were being registered at the practice as it has an Asian female GP.

These girls have been brainwashed into that particular extreme brand of religion and their lives are dominated by living under the strictest regime, they will have no real contact with British society, and men will rule everything they ever do, say or think. We have had the religious freedom debate many times over but these kids have had no choice whatsoever in the matter and now it is too late for them. Of course supporters of their flavour of religion will say that is how everyone MUST live their life and everyone else is wrong but for these girls there was never any choice nor ever will be. This includes strictures on how marriage is imposed on them and how they must basically submit to the wishes of men.

Is this child abuse? Under UK law, seemingly not.

Well said ... I feel the same.
But nobody will confront it ... they daren't for so many reasons.

I think the amount of attention given to the role of race in the lack of adequate response to these crimes is out of proportion.

I would suggest that other forces were also playing a part in the failure of social care and police and it shouldn't be laid purely at the door of political correctness or fear of being labelled racist.

Poor leadership, complicated chains of command, complacency, prejudice and lack of professionalism all played part.

Blaming it on multiculturalism would be a disservice to the victims. All lessons need to be learned otherwise this will just become another report that wasn't acted upon.

The police commissioner is being a little stubborn - he should have done the honourable thing as soon as this story got air time. Other than the money I can't see why he is hanging on?

Rotherham council proved they could act fast when they removed foster children from UKIP supporting foster parents on the basis that the parents' political views were at odds with those deemed suitable by the council.

This case is a total disgrace to this country and yet still there are attempts to play down the ethnic angle especially by the BBC who have gone out of their way to avoid discussing it. Anyone directly involved either at the council or the police who knew about the abuse but failed to act should be sacked immediately and feel themselves lucky that they are not facing criminal charges.

When I was a magistrate the most frustrating aspect of the role was dealing with kids from care homes. They'd get into trouble after being out all night with their "boyfriends"or in the case of the boys, lads that were a few years older. When you asked why that was allowed, why the "boyfriend" wasn't in court, the answer was just a shrug of the shoulders and "What can you do?"

The situation was then compounded as kids would be brought to court for the sort of petty offenses that probably happen thousands of times every night amongst squabbling siblings in family homes without the police being called. On the grounds that "Its the only way we can discipline them". We did make a concerted effort to get the CPS to stop bringing these prosecutions which had some success, but you did often think that the old fashioned option of a clip round the ear might have been more in their interests.

I know there are some terrible, abusive parents that should never be allowed to "raise" children. But putting them into "care" homes often seems to be just as bad.