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Quote: Mintball "Take buildings

The only reference I can find to a lifespan of the Millenium Stadium is this
www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynatio ... _page.html
referring to a problem with some of the concrete.

However, in a country known for keeping dilapidated stadia in use for far too long, perhaps a planned intention to maintain a schedule of updating or replacing it's sports stadia is no bad thing.
Quote: Mintball "Take buildings

The only reference I can find to a lifespan of the Millenium Stadium is this
www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynatio ... _page.html
referring to a problem with some of the concrete.

However, in a country known for keeping dilapidated stadia in use for far too long, perhaps a planned intention to maintain a schedule of updating or replacing it's sports stadia is no bad thing.


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It's not just white goods, though. Take buildings

When I entered the workforce at 17 years of age it was into the building sector, electrical contracting to be exact.

38 years later I would naturally expect those electrical installations that I first worked on to have been renewed by now, but I'm actually seeing the buildings themselves being demolished, not renovated, actually flattened and replaced icon_biggrin.gif

Madness.

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Quote: DaveO "Software is a good one as well. I use Adobe Lightroom for my photos and was quite happy running it on Windows XP. Latest version doesn't run on Windows XP. Have to upgrade to Windows 7 to get the new version. Things like that are all around and it isn't technology that drives it but profits.'"


Why don't you just continue to use the earlier version of Lightroom?

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Quote: Mintball "What is "an unreasonable timeframe"?

I'm now on my third washing machine in 17 years. And I take enough care to invest in and use Calgon.

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Her's a tip.

Don't waste your money on Calgon, put the cash in a jar and use it to buy your next washing machine, I bet you'll still have some change left.

I've lived in hard water areas all my life, Hull, Staffs & Somerset are all noted for very hard water and have never suffered a failure to any machine that could be attributed to limescale

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Quote: DaveO "Bought a Pure DAB alarm radio/alarm clock a while back so hardly an antique being DAB. It's just packed in. It's basically a load of computer chips so WTF can go wrong with stuff like that?'"

Well chips fail for starters. Plus there will be other components in there that aren't semiconductors that are capable of failure. Entropy always wins.

Quote: DaveO "Software is a good one as well. I use Adobe Lightroom for my photos and was quite happy running it on Windows XP. Latest version doesn't run on Windows XP. Have to upgrade to Windows 7 to get the new version. Things like that are all around and it isn't technology that drives it but profits.'"

Do you need the new version? What does it do that your current version doesn't and that's essential for you?

Building in backwards compatibility isn't always possible.

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Makes me laugh, though, you go into Sonic or wherever and there's a choice of a hundred washing machines. Even the cheapest will do a job for you and will be guaranteed for at least a year, but surely everyone understands the concept of you get what you pay for?

How do you think a manufacturer makes a washing machine with superficially comparable features and looks to on three or four time or more the price? Perhaps, just perhaps, compromising on build quality / cheaper materials? is this a shock?

Extended guarantees are a real rip off, but if you want your kit to be "guaranteed" for the indefinite future you have that option too.

Solid state electronic items that don't take the physical stick tend to be very long lived, in my experience. Can't remember the last time we bought a telly, for example, that wasn't working perfectly adequately many, many years later.

it's not so much "planned" obscolescence, as simply working to a price.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge " ... The late George Daniels creator of Co-Axial escapement that Omega laud so much, has gone a long way towards abolishing this friction of the escapement but not entirely within the watch... '"


My OT comment ... You're the first person I've "met" (outside of watch forums... and I only "lurk" on those, I don't post) who I have seen/heard mention the co-axial escapement.
You now have a place in my esteem so don't go spoiling it. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "We're everywhere. You can usually spot us because we look at a persons wrist first before their face ...'"


Meant to say, have you seen rlthis?rl

You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ROBINSON "Planned obsolescence is built into just about every manufactured item. It's nothing new.

If products don't become obsolete, then there is little incentive to buy replacements for that item. I do wonder how many people who moan about planned obsolescence have iPhones, for instance.'"


iPhones are the worst for planned obsolence. I had one that lasted 17 months, just none month short of a contract then all of a sudden it stoped working.

I even had to pick all the bits of glass out of my trouser pockets before I dared put them back in the washing machine.

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Quote: Mintball "Meant to say, have you seen rlthis?rl

You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it.
Much appreciated. icon_thumb.gif

A whole host of forums and blogs that are dedicated to horology usually keep me up to date.

A favorite of mine. www.hodinkee.com/

Just to keep this thread on topic. I most be very lucky or I just look after products better than others. But I always seem to make things last for ever. Both my oven and fridge are pushing the 20 year barrier and my boiler/central heating is 38 years old this year and still going strong. Perhaps it helps that I'm stuck in time warp myself. icon_wink.gif
Quote: Mintball "Meant to say, have you seen rlthis?rl

You probably have, but this drift reminded me of it.
Much appreciated. icon_thumb.gif

A whole host of forums and blogs that are dedicated to horology usually keep me up to date.

A favorite of mine. www.hodinkee.com/

Just to keep this thread on topic. I most be very lucky or I just look after products better than others. But I always seem to make things last for ever. Both my oven and fridge are pushing the 20 year barrier and my boiler/central heating is 38 years old this year and still going strong. Perhaps it helps that I'm stuck in time warp myself. icon_wink.gif


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El Barbudo, you will probably be disgusted to know that I am also aware of a co-axial escapement.

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Quote: Dave Lister "El Barbudo, you will probably be disgusted to know that I am also aware of a co-axial escapement.


If we carry on like this, it'll be like a scene from [iSpartacus[/i.

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Quote: El Barbudo "If we carry on like this, it'll be like a scene from [iSpartacus[/i.'"


You'll just have to watch out then.












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Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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