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| Quote: cod'ead "rlLooks like Camoron's little 'Help to Buy' PR stunt last week isn't all it seemsrl'"
In what way? Was she someone who used the "help to buy scheme" or not?
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| Quote: BobbyD "In what way? Was she someone who used the "help to buy scheme" or not?'"
The newspapers picked up on a blog story that had been widely circulated over the weekend, on first viewing it looks like a very carefully stage managed "good news" PR story but when reading the details (there are few details) its fairly plain to see that nothing illegal has occurred.
What is plain is that Camerons advisors could have picked a better example for him to turn into a PR exercise for Right-to-Buy and if I were him I'd be asking some questions of his staff, like "Did you not ask her what job she did, could you not have found me an Asda checkout girl to be photographed with ?"
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Quote: JerryChicken "The newspapers picked up on a blog story that had been widely circulated over the weekend, on first viewing it looks like a very carefully stage managed "good news" PR story but when reading the details (there are few details) its fairly plain to see that nothing illegal has occurred.
What is plain is that Camerons advisors could have picked a better example for him to turn into a PR exercise for Right-to-Buy and if I were him I'd be asking some questions of his staff, like "Did you not ask her what job she did, could you not have found me an Asda checkout girl to be photographed with ?"'"
You mean like this one?
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/ne ... uy_scheme/
2 bed terraces round there for £50k. Not the greatest area but they seemed please.
But still, not quite as juicy as "Woman with good job, nice car buys expensive house...WAAAAHHHH Tories"
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Quote: JerryChicken "The newspapers picked up on a blog story that had been widely circulated over the weekend, on first viewing it looks like a very carefully stage managed "good news" PR story but when reading the details (there are few details) its fairly plain to see that nothing illegal has occurred.
What is plain is that Camerons advisors could have picked a better example for him to turn into a PR exercise for Right-to-Buy and if I were him I'd be asking some questions of his staff, like "Did you not ask her what job she did, could you not have found me an Asda checkout girl to be photographed with ?"'"
You mean like this one?
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/ne ... uy_scheme/
2 bed terraces round there for £50k. Not the greatest area but they seemed please.
But still, not quite as juicy as "Woman with good job, nice car buys expensive house...WAAAAHHHH Tories"
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| Quote: BobbyD "You mean like this one?
Thats the way the newspapers work, welcome to the realisation, the nationals feed off the regionals and also off social media, the Cameron story was doing the rounds before the weekend on Twitter and Facebook and the story as printed is almost word for word what the blogger (with an agenda) wrote, no research necessary just lots of innuendo and suggestion.
Like I said, his staff could have done a few minutes research and perhaps chosen a more neutral subject.
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| Quote: JerryChicken "Thats the way the newspapers work, welcome to the realisation, the nationals feed off the regionals and also off social media, the Cameron story was doing the rounds before the weekend on Twitter and Facebook and the story as printed is almost word for word what the blogger (with an agenda) wrote, no research necessary just lots of innuendo and suggestion.
Like I said, his staff could have done a few minutes research and perhaps chosen a more neutral subject.'"
Or the blogger (with an agenda) could have actually looked at the facts as opposed to "WAAAHHHH...Tories".
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| Quote: BobbyD "Or the blogger (with an agenda) could have actually looked at the facts as opposed to "WAAAHHHH...Tories".'"
The nature of blogs is that they are the opinions of the person who writes them and anyone who reads them needs to keep this in mind, some are written by professionals and have varying elements of research, some are just pure opinion and based on nothing other than prejudice, whatever flavour that prejudice may be.
Unfortunately we are tending to find that newspapers are abdicating any responsibility to check facts and opting to simply quote "sources" and because most people still assume (wrongly) that newspapers only report facts and do not try to sway opinion at all, then we are where we are.
If I have a minute I'll find a link to the original blog and then you can compare to the newspaper article but it seems that in this case none of the professionals involved have researched the subject at all, the blogger did a little digging and adopted what he found to suit his personal view, as is his right.
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| Quote: BobbyD "But still, not quite as juicy as "Woman with good job, nice car buys expensive house...WAAAAHHHH Tories"'"
Or not as juicy as woman and husband with decent salaries and have just bought a car that would have covered the said deposit, given government help to buy a property using a scheme designed to help people who couldn't afford the deposit.
Add the fact that it looks like they either bought some time ago or was staged just for the PR stunt and it is more Oi, Tories!
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| Quote: Big Graeme "Or not as juicy as woman and husband with decent salaries and have just bought a car that would have covered the said deposit, given government help to buy a property using a scheme designed to help people who couldn't afford the deposit.
Add the fact that it looks like they either bought some time ago or was staged just for the PR stunt and it is more Oi, Tories!'"
Husband? She's referred to as Ms. Did she buy the car or is it a company car? Just what is her salary? Has this evil harridan, by using the scheme scuppered the chances of a poor, unfortunate family realising their dream?
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| Quote: BobbyD "Husband? She's referred to as Ms. Did she buy the car or is it a company car? Just what is her salary? Has this evil harridan, by using the scheme scuppered the chances of a poor, unfortunate family realising their dream?'"
Read the article.
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| Quote: Big Graeme "Read the article.'"
I have. No mention of her salary. I just thought you might know.
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| Quote: BobbyD "I have. No mention of her salary. I just thought you might know.'"
There is no mention of her salary because the original source of the story did not interview her, remember this was an amateur blogger giving his opinion piece, all he did was dig around in Facebook record and find that she was a director of the company and that she'd posted all about her new car.
Thats fair enough for a blogger and as a reader you have to decipher this and understand that this is all subjective - the newspaper has then simply lifted the story and reproduced it almost verbatim - its at this point where you might expect a professional national media outlet to ask a few questions, maybe ring her, possibly send a reporter - but they don't appear to have.
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| Quote: cod'ead "I wonder just how many "rich" people there are living in what few council houses that still exist?'"
c. 21,000 apparently.
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| Quote: BobbyD "Husband? She's referred to as Ms ...'"
'Ms' is neither a synonym for 'Miss' or 'Mrs'. Then entire point of it is that it does not, in any way, reveal relationship status.
It's not complicated.
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| Quote: Mintball "'Ms' is neither a synonym for 'Miss' or 'Mrs'. Then entire point of it is that it does not, in any way, reveal relationship status.
It's not complicated.'"
You learn something new everyday, I always thought it was used as an alternative to Miss.
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