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| Quote: McClennan "Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism.'"
We don't have a free market. We have a system of crony capitalism, that's geared towards big government, and big business.
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| Maybe the workers at Redcar could have accepted a wage reduction, short weeks etc. They have simply priced the business out of production via wage and other demands, surely?
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| Quote: HullFC_1865 "Maybe the workers at Redcar could have accepted a wage reduction, short weeks etc. They have simply priced the business out of production via wage and other demands, surely?'"
yeh right, which directors/owners/shareholders were prepared to take a cut?.
Why is it the right wing say improve your lot in life and income, but when others do they whinge and whine?
Why are bad business decisions and management the fault of the "workers"?
Whatever happens someone will make a killing from this closure, but I'll bet it wont be any of the "workers" who actually created the wealth of the business.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "yeh right, which directors/owners/shareholders were prepared to take a cut?.
Why is it the right wing say improve your lot in life and income, but when others do they whinge and whine?
Why are bad business decisions and management the fault of the "workers"?
Whatever happens someone will make a killing from this closure, but I'll bet it wont be any of the "workers" who actually created the wealth of the business.'"
utter rhubarb, the workers were given an opportunity to earn via someone else taking a risk. it's about time "the workers" remembered what they are there to do, WORK.
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| Quote: McClennan "Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism and of the Conservative's commitment to anywhere outside of their constituencies. .'"
This is not a failure of free market capitalism. It is the knock on effect of the slow down world trade led by China that has caused a collapse in global steel prices which are kept down by state intervention mainly in Communist China. Furthermore what has been the final straw is the higher costs of electricity incurred by UK companies because of the nonsense green policies of successive governments which has seen a much higher cost of UK electricity due to climate change policies.
So it is not a level playing field.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "This is not a failure of free market capitalism. It is the knock on effect of the slow down world trade led by China that has caused a collapse in global steel prices which are kept down by state intervention mainly in Communist China. Furthermore what has been the final straw is the higher costs of electricity incurred by UK companies because of the nonsense green policies of successive governments which has seen a much higher cost of UK electricity due to climate change policies.
So it is not a level playing field.'"
You should be happy, Greed is still winning!
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| Quote: Leaguefan "You should be happy, Greed is still winning!'"
why don't you invest your considerable personal wealth and give all these poor mites jobs making something for above the cost that people are willing to buy it for...
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| Quote: workers "HullFC_1865 wrote
Why are you so bitter about some being wealthy?? Its always going to be that way. I couldn't careless if the manager is earning millions if he provides thousands of others with jobs. Thats the way of the world. Become the manager
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| Quote: Leaguefan "You should be happy, Greed is still winning!'"
That's pretty lame even for you
The fact UK workers are losing jobs because of actions of another regime - the policies of which you aspire to is pretty ironic really
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| Quote: Leaguefan "You should be happy, Greed is still winning!'"
In your green world you equate greed with capitalism because for you it is a lazy way to try and justify your leftie views. You make an unproven statement and then keep referring to it as if it is true and then use it as a base for your other odd comments. You are unable to form an argument and keep posting one line negatives with graphics instead of words.
It you were not so one eyed you would see clearly that greed is a human failing which affects all of humanity to some degree. Greed of course can be found in people from all political persuasions left and right and in both business and state run public institutions. Of course greed will be found in Capitalism but it was/is never more rampant than the corrupt and bankrupt communist block of old or the socialist run disasters like Venezuela.
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| Quote: Lord Elpers "In your green world you equate greed with capitalism because for you it is a lazy way to try and justify your leftie views. You make an unproven statement and then keep referring to it as if it is true and then use it as a base for your other odd comments. You are unable to form an argument and keep posting one line negatives with graphics instead of words.
It you were not so one eyed you would see clearly that greed is a human failing which affects all of humanity to some degree. Greed of course can be found in people from all political persuasions left and right and in both business and state run public institutions. Of course greed will be found in Capitalism but it was/is never more rampant than the corrupt and bankrupt communist block of old or the socialist run disasters like Venezuela.'"
don't be silly (and wire-quin, I think your quote mixed me up with Leaguefan, which is a situation I'd never find comfort in)
Some people create opportunity for the less fortunate, and I will go as far to say, intelligent, to exploit.
Does Leagugefan have a problem with Honda, Audi, BMW, Tetleys, no, Leaguefan is a symptom of the demise of UK endeavour "I want to work, but I want big money and for someone else to pay me for it, whilst I actually sit on my backside and do nothing"
If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.
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| Quote: HullFC_1865 "
If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.'"
I do, but then there are people who post on forums who are struggling with thinking. It's a slow process but even then worth it.
Too many posters are comfortable with their " lot", fine, but cannot grasp that perhaps they are not as open minded as they portray themselves.
There is a reason for that as well, but I will let those who can work it out for themselves, if they can be bothered.
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| Quote: HullFC_1865 "
If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.'"
Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?
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| Quote: Him "Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?'"
Or take the bull by the horns and rely on themselves to make a difference for themselves and possibly some others?
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| Quote: Him "Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?'"
not my responsibility, I am firmly a greedy capitalist, if others cannot be bothered to get off their backsides and achieve then that is up to them.
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