Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'"
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Ferocious Aardvark Rot. What embarrasses you now, is that you posed the question of whether it was even suicide'".
Until the inquest states it was suicide it is only an apparent suicide. You are the one who now talks about waiting for the inquest well that is what the inquest does.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "I really don't. As I have said from the beginning, I blame the radio station who chose to broadcast the tape. And frankly don't see how any fair minded person could do otherwise. '"
Because the evidence we have seen shows that this was a woman who had Mental Health problems had recently being under the care of a Psychiatrist and had made TWO serous suicide attempts this year
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say " Now that you have let the cat out of the bag, you may as well tell us - WHAT "significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'"
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'",
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'".
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled FA page 11['"
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death. FA page 13
'"
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say " Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'".
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "You say "No-one does". Well, her husband is reportedly "seething" with the presenters and the hospital management, and I venture to suggest that having read her suicide note, he may have a fairly good idea FA page 13'"
so now you are saying lets wait for the inquest to know the facts but 12 pages ago you were saying that because of selective quotes from the family you knew enough
I was not the one apportioning blame until facts came out. You were all for the judge , jury and executioner before we knew anything.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Funny how that was [iyour[/i claimed position, but now you suddenly seem to know all the facts.'"
NO i dont know all the facts but i was not demanding heads should role before we knew anything.
I still think there is more to come out in the wash particularly the role of hospital management. When we know that maybe then we should talk about who should lose their jobs. Yet you knew who should be sacked on page 11 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Ferocious Aardvark Rot. What embarrasses you now, is that you posed the question of whether it was even suicide'".
Until the inquest states it was suicide it is only an apparent suicide. You are the one who now talks about waiting for the inquest well that is what the inquest does.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "I really don't. As I have said from the beginning, I blame the radio station who chose to broadcast the tape. And frankly don't see how any fair minded person could do otherwise. '"
Because the evidence we have seen shows that this was a woman who had Mental Health problems had recently being under the care of a Psychiatrist and had made TWO serous suicide attempts this year
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say " Now that you have let the cat out of the bag, you may as well tell us - WHAT "significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'"
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'",
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'".
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled FA page 11['"
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death. FA page 13
'"
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say " Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'".
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "You say "No-one does". Well, her husband is reportedly "seething" with the presenters and the hospital management, and I venture to suggest that having read her suicide note, he may have a fairly good idea FA page 13'"
so now you are saying lets wait for the inquest to know the facts but 12 pages ago you were saying that because of selective quotes from the family you knew enough
I was not the one apportioning blame until facts came out. You were all for the judge , jury and executioner before we knew anything.
Quote: significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012?'" :3fub7rje]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tempt.html
But you know this but still try to put the blame on the prank as being the cause of it all. Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again.
[quote:3fub7rje]What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.'":3fub7rje]
Ooh lets play the emotional guilt trip card. Nowt like whipping up the emotions when you are on a crusade.
[quote:3fub7rje]Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate'":3fub7rje],
My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash and i quoted on many occasions key issues that needed to be known about before we could piece together what caused the death of the nurse Including HER MENTAL HEALTH.
[quote:3fub7rje]I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]The people who took the decision to broadcast clearly have appalling judgment. I'm sure offences must have been committed and if so they must be prosecuted. They aren't fit to be in charge of a broadcast station and should resign or have their licence pulled =#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 11:3fub7rje]['":3fub7rje]
[quote:3fub7rje]On all known facts the nurse took her life as the final act in a short sequence of events in which the prank call was the first, and so the outcome of the prank was, ultimately, her death.=#FF0000:3fub7rje] FA page 13:3fub7rje]
'":3fub7rje]
So the whole of the press is demanding heads must role, you are looking for prosecutions and a Radio station to have its licence pulled. Not that you are on the bandwagon mate
[quote:3fub7rje] Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them.'":3fub7rje].
[quote:3fub7rje]You say "Funny how that was [iyour[/i claimed position, but now you suddenly seem to know all the facts.'"
NO i dont know all the facts but i was not demanding heads should role before we knew anything.
I still think there is more to come out in the wash particularly the role of hospital management. When we know that maybe then we should talk about who should lose their jobs. Yet you knew who should be sacked on page 11
For the last time, I do NOT blame the PRANK as being the cause of it all, and why you keep lying that I do is a mystery. For the last time, I have 100% clearly said I place the lion's share of the blame of the radio station who should never have run with the story, they chose to do so after presumably considered deliberation, and it is them who I mainly blame, for the worldwide media shiitstorm that this terrible decision created. If you are going to comment on my opinions, could you at least not lie about what they are?
Quote: Durham Giant "..Do You think that the information we have on her recent medical history suggests she had significant mental health problems at the begining of the year ...'"
I don't have ANY information on her recent medical history and neither do you. If you mean the reports that she had been treated for depression and had recently finished that treatment, if those are accurate then it would seem to me that health professionals likely decided that she was in reasonable health. But what would a psychiatrist and the doctors who treated her know, eh? Shame they didn't just ask you, you could have told them that far from being well, she was on the edge and anything could have tipped her over it. I don't know how you know this, but maybe they should sack the mental health professionals and just ring you for an opinion, eh?
Quote: Durham Giant ".and that all those problems had suddenly vanished 11 months later and that only the prank made her ill again. '" More disingenuous. mocking crap. The only reports there have been seem to suggest that she had been very well cared for since the reported incident apparently 11 months ago, and that she had only quite recently completed anti-depressant treatment. Knowing all this, you still make the silly statement about "all those problems suddenly vanishing". On such information as has come out, I think she had been well treated and finished a reasonably lengthy course of treatment. and was doing a responsible job, reportedly very well.
Quote: Durham Giant "My conspiracy theory was that there is more to come out in the wash ...'"
No, it was "was it even suicide."
Quote: Durham Giant "so now you are saying lets wait for the inquest to know the facts '"
No I am not saying "let's wait for the inquest". Agreeing the rather obvious statement that the full facts will only come out at inquest does not operate as a bar to discussing what information is already in the public domain.
Quote: Durham Giant "....I still think there is more to come out in the wash particularly the role of hospital management. '"
I have already said repeatedly that whilst we don't know anything directly about the role of hospital management, we do know the family has been critical of it, and we do know one of the notes left was devoted to the hospital's role. As we know nothing else, and as she took the trouble to write a note about the hospital management prior to killing herself, that is with respect not a great insight.
Quote: Durham Giant "... When we know that maybe then we should talk about who should lose their jobs. Yet you knew who should be sacked on page 11 
Soon be New Year. 
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