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The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Just drive around with a Masonic case on your passenger seat, you'll be fine

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Regarding my comment about thick drivers and a reply about competency
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Type into a well known video website search and watch. As for the rest of the world..............

The technology exists to prevent these people ever getting into a vehicle, but again it's costly. It could be done but it won't so just accept that there are idiots, drunk or not that are out to kill, injure and maim you.

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Quote: Leaguefan "Regarding my comment about thick drivers and a reply about competency
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Type into a well known video website search and watch. As for the rest of the world..............

The technology exists to prevent these people ever getting into a vehicle, but again it's costly. It could be done but it won't so just accept that there are idiots, drunk or not that are out to kill, injure and maim you.'"


Accidents happen - to suggest drivers drunk or not are out to kill others is simply preposterous.

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Quote: Leaguefan "...The technology exists to prevent these people ever getting into a vehicle...'"


Only in your megalomaniac fantasies.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Accidents happen - to suggest drivers drunk or not are out to kill others is simply preposterous.'"


Whereas to suggest that very many absolutely do not give a flying sh[size.[/sizeit is not.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Whereas to suggest that very many absolutely do not give a flying sh[size.[/sizeit is not.'"


Equally preposterous - to suggest that a high % of drivers don't give a whether they kill somebody or not is - even for your warped sense of right and wrong - plain nuts.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Accidents happen - to suggest drivers drunk or not are out to kill others is simply preposterous.'"


Sorry but an "accident" in a car is when the sky falls on it, a la Chicken Licken.

Anything else, there's at least one party at fault.

That is not an "accident"

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Quote: cod'ead "Sorry but an "accident" in a car is when the sky falls on it, a la Chicken Licken.

Anything else, there's at least one party at fault.

That is not an "accident"'"


Can't disagree with that Coddy, the exception being some kind of failure with the car.

But realistically, people will always have odd lapses of concentration, and as with all aspects of life, people will make mistakes and bad decisions. It doesn't mean they don't care, nor does it mean they are bad drivers. But until cars drive themselves (not far away from being reality btw), there will always be human error.

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One thing they could do is ban all black Audi's, at least then a shed load of s would need to buy a new car, and then we could take their licences off them, that would make the motorways safer

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Quote: Starbug "One thing they could do is ban all black Audi's, at least then a shed load of s would need to buy a new car, and then we could take their licences off them, that would make the motorways safer'"


The real knobs are all driving white ones now

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Quote: p1nkyw1nky1 "I can see the sense of being banned from driving in Scotland if you are over the limit that they have set , but surely you should still be allowed to continue to drive in England as you would not have committed an offence there .'"


If you drink drive in ANY EU STATE you are banned from driving in ALL EU STATES, regardless of the level of alcohol allowed in your home state.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Equally preposterous - to suggest that a high % of drivers don't give a poop whether they kill somebody or not is - even for your warped sense of right and wrong - plain nuts.'"


You know sometimes it is very hard to work out whether you are just on the wind up, semi-literate or plain dumb. Being charitable and assuming it's one of the latter two, then you just made up "a high % of drivers". The remark was (obviously) referring to "DRUNK DRIVERS".

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Quote: Big Graeme "If you drink drive in ANY EU STATE you are banned from driving in ALL EU STATES, regardless of the level of alcohol allowed in your home state.'"

No you aren't. A UK court can only ban you from land within its own jurisdiction.

However you wouldn't be able to hire a car abroad, as no hire company will hire to someone with a drink-drive conviction for up to 5 years from date of conviction, and certainly not within the disqualification period since you are not during that period the holder of a valid licence entitling you to drive.

If you use your own car, then unless someone else drove it out of the jurisdiction, you'd be driving whilst disqualified in the UK, for which you could go to jail.

If you drove abroad in your own car then you would not be driving whilst disqualified, as you are not disqualified in that country, but you WOULD be driving without a licence, and without insurance.

You may be thinking of the European Convention on Driving Disqualifications of 17 June 1998 which would have the effect of mutual bans, but doesn't, as it would need all states to sign it. Oddly, they CAN agree to mutually apply it voluntarily, but the only countries so far to have done so AFAIK are the UK and Ireland. So your ban WOULD mean you were also disqualified in the emerald isle, bejabers.

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It was so much simpler back in 1971.

I copped a 12 month ban after being found with 86mg of alcohol in 100ml of blood (8 over the limit), following a stop for a faulty back light. Shortly after the ban I realised that I couldn't continue in my career and departed to work the summer season on Guernsey. While there I discovered that I could take a Guernsey driving test, so I got a provisional, booked a couple of lessons and then booked a test. I passed that and continued driving while I was there.

When I got back to the UK, I continued driving on my green Guernsey licence until my red UK licence was returned to me. I knew of others who got round the ban by driving on other countries' licences and even one bloke who continued driving on his International Licence, despite the fact that you also needed a domestic licence to validate the International one.

Impossible now with the PNC of course

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I suspect the most noticeable impact in the next few weeks will be a large increase in "morning after" convictions. Best get a bus or taxi to work after a night out

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Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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