Sadly not - because she lost her seat; and unlike the Tories, Labour don't have the option of sidestepping the electorate by putting non-MP's into the HoL but retaining them in Cabinet positions. Question - given the way that Tory maths works - are there now 2 Nicky Morgan's?



I think Labour did indeed lose partly because of Corbyn - I haven't said otherwise; where I differ is that I don't think this election was won or lost on policy; it was largely based on spin and smear and personalities - and he suffered more of that than even Michael Foot. But the single biggest factor was Brexit - this was effectively a 2nd referendum, and Workington Man has clearly been persuaded that 'getting Brexit done' was more important than any other issue.

I think "Workington Man" was convinced that the result of the referendum should be respected, not dithered over, which is what Labour were doing.

Indeed - we can only hope that it doesn't result in him being Out-of-Work-ington Man; but that will of course be a mess wholly owned by the Tory party, long time champions of the downtrodden masses.

where are these downtrodden masses?

FWIW Bren, whether the Nationalisation program was right or wrong, it mad such an easy target.
The spend on something that IMO was neither urgent nor essential is just so bloody huge, it allowed the Tories to point the finger and suggest that Labour could not be trusted with the public purse.
Brexit too was a disaster.
Such was the divide within the party that, they couldn't stomach choosing "leave" as their policy, as it went totally against the majority of their party and was at odds with a large proportion of their supporters. However, their largely "remain" position was at odds with the referendum vote.
Months and months ago, I suggested on here that they had to pick a side and either work damned hard to "sell" the "peoples vote" option or, actually opt for "leave". However this would have meant losing swathes of votes to the Libdems and they would still have suffered at the election.

Either way, the 2 major parts of their policy have utterly stuffed them and it will be a very, very long way back for them. Something that, with the "loss" of Scotland, may even be impossible.

For me they have to take the centre ground or they are doomed as a serious opposition party.

Currently queuing up at the growing number of food banks

So Peter Mandelson was not given a peerage and back into cabinet - that after he was given a cushy EU job - or has that slipped you memory?

I come back to the point the Tories managed to retain a big chunk of remainers despite going with a leave manifesto - how was it that Labour couldn't retain the leavers?

Employment is at a "record high" but, the ecconomy is flat lining, can you explain why that may be ?

where is the economy flat lining, it seems pretty buoyant to me, not growing as fast as it was, but still growing. Can you explain how it would have been so much better under Comrade Corbyn?

Damn right it's high profile.
Food banks shouldn't be neccessary in a civilised society, in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet.
I realise that some of the issues are complex but, one of the main factors in their increase is the disastrous roll out of Universal Credit, leaving people with nothing, having to wait 6 weeks for any kind of payment - who the hell thought on up ??

Just wait until the working class realise Johnson and Co. weren't dragged up in council houses, and didn't attend state comprehensives. Can you imagine their shock?

Nope - so was Andrew Adonis, and it was wrong then too.

You really do rely very heavily on the tactic of whataboutery - it's an entirely reductive way to conduct an argument.

The ecconomy grew by 0.3% in Q3 nd contracted 0.2% in Q2 of 2019, therefore overall growth in the UK ecconomy, over the last 6 months is a MIGHTY 0.1% - Is that Buoyant ?

Taking account of inflation, consumption is down and we are actually in reverse.