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Who is the pig? Is this an in joke?

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Quote: Exiled down south "Who is the pig? Is this an in joke?'"

Certainly was an "in" joke about 30 years ago!

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Quote: Exiled down south "Who is the pig? Is this an in joke?'"


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Quote: Exiled down south "Who is the pig? Is this an in joke?'"


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Unions have helped a lot in Redcar icon_biggrin.gif - completely impotent just like McCluskey when Ratcliffe called his bluff icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Unions have helped a lot in Redcar Which union would that be? The CBI?

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Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism and of the Conservative's commitment to anywhere outside of their constituencies. Frankly, they're not interested. With the current electoral system they don't have to bother with anywhere like that. They can keep pumping money into where their MPs are. The corporate financiers that fund the Tories get their billions of profit from all over the world. They won't lose sleep overnight about the plight of thousands in the north of England. The only thing that stops the whole thing collapsing is your average small and mid sized business entrepreneurs who continue to seek opportunity in the UK. They're the people that put money into local economies and bring it in from overseas. Your average multinational, as we know, minimises its tax liability (to the point of avoidance) and sucks money from local economies into various financial institutions, which do the same.

Only the other week I was reading about Comet and how the venture capitalists that bought it paid £2. When it was liquidated, the workers had to get taxpayers money to pay them redundancy (statutory I believe not enhanced company terms) whilst the venture capitalists got £114m from it.

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Quote: McClennan "Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism and of the Conservative's commitment to anywhere outside of their constituencies. Frankly, they're not interested. With the current electoral system they don't have to bother with anywhere like that. They can keep pumping money into where their MPs are. The corporate financiers that fund the Tories get their billions of profit from all over the world. They won't lose sleep overnight about the plight of thousands in the north of England. The only thing that stops the whole thing collapsing is your average small and mid sized business entrepreneurs who continue to seek opportunity in the UK. They're the people that put money into local economies and bring it in from overseas. Your average multinational, as we know, minimises its tax liability (to the point of avoidance) and sucks money from local economies into various financial institutions, which do the same.

Only the other week I was reading about Comet and how the venture capitalists that bought it paid £2. When it was liquidated, the workers had to get taxpayers money to pay them redundancy (statutory I believe not enhanced company terms) whilst the venture capitalists got £114m from it.'"


The workers got some back of the monies they and the previous company had put in i.e. employees/employers NI one of the reasons NI is set at such a high level!! is your £114m (50m given by Kesa to cover insurance claims + 64m recovered from the admin) net of the £74m HAL wrote off?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "[sizeThe workers [/sizegot some back of the monies they and the previous company had put in i.e. employees/employers NI one of the reasons NI is set at such a high level!! is your £114m (50m given by Kesa to cover insurance claims + 64m recovered from the admin) net of the £74m HAL wrote off?'"


Hmm' they should just tug their forelocks whilst others made a killing for doing nothing.

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If what Redcar produces cannot be sold, is it being argued that "the taxpayer" should pay for the pointless production? For how long? How do we know their will ever be a profitable market for the production? Wouldn't it be better to put resources into something more economically viable that could enhance people's living standards? We've lost millions of jobs in primary and secondary industries over the last 60+ years but have more people employed than ever. A lot may not be in highly paid jobs, but they never were - most jobs though being less dirty and dangerous than those they replaced.

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Quote: McClennan "Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism.'"


We don't have a free market. We have a system of crony capitalism, that's geared towards big government, and big business.

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Maybe the workers at Redcar could have accepted a wage reduction, short weeks etc. They have simply priced the business out of production via wage and other demands, surely?

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Quote: HullFC_1865 "Maybe the workers at Redcar could have accepted a wage reduction, short weeks etc. They have simply priced the business out of production via wage and other demands, surely?'"


yeh right, which directors/owners/shareholders were prepared to take a cut?.

Why is it the right wing say improve your lot in life and income, but when others do they whinge and whine?

Why are bad business decisions and management the fault of the "workers"?

Whatever happens someone will make a killing from this closure, but I'll bet it wont be any of the "workers" who actually created the wealth of the business.

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Quote: Leaguefan "yeh right, which directors/owners/shareholders were prepared to take a cut?.

Why is it the right wing say improve your lot in life and income, but when others do they whinge and whine?

Why are bad business decisions and management the fault of the "workers"?

Whatever happens someone will make a killing from this closure, but I'll bet it wont be any of the "workers" who actually created the wealth of the business.'"


utter rhubarb, the workers were given an opportunity to earn via someone else taking a risk. it's about time "the workers" remembered what they are there to do, WORK.

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Quote: McClennan "Let's be honest, what's happening in Redcar is symptomatic of the general failure of free market capitalism and of the Conservative's commitment to anywhere outside of their constituencies. .'"


This is not a failure of free market capitalism. It is the knock on effect of the slow down world trade led by China that has caused a collapse in global steel prices which are kept down by state intervention mainly in Communist China. Furthermore what has been the final straw is the higher costs of electricity incurred by UK companies because of the nonsense green policies of successive governments which has seen a much higher cost of UK electricity due to climate change policies.

So it is not a level playing field.

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 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Sat 3rd Aug
SL
15:00
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SL
17:30
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Sun 4th Aug
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Sat 10th Aug
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LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
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Sun 18th Aug
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Fri 23rd Aug
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SL 20 Castleford10-20Leigh
SL 20 Wigan26-14Huddersfield
NRL 22 Wests30-48NQL Cowboys
Sun 28th Jul
NRL 21 St.George10-46Penrith
NRL 21 Dolphins14-21Gold Coast
NRL 21 Canberra32-12Souths
CH 19 Batley16-22Halifax
CH 19 Doncaster37-30Barrow
CH 19 Sheffield78-24Whitehaven
CH 19 Wakefield46-18Featherstone
CH 19 Widnes25-6Bradford
CH 19 York34-4Swinton
L1 17 Newcastle34-44Cornwall
L1 17 Hunslet24-32Workington
L1 17 Keighley36-12Midlands
L1 17 Rochdale10-14Oldham
Sat 27th Jul
SL 19 Salford30-22Castleford
SL 19 Catalans24-16Hull FC
NRL 21 Brisbane16-41Canterbury
NRL 21 NQL Cowboys30-22Cronulla
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 19 498 245 253 28
Hull KR 19 481 255 226 28
Catalans 19 366 274 92 24
Salford 19 355 366 -11 24
St.Helens 19 455 256 199 22
 
Leeds 19 355 342 13 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 19 268 566 -298 6
LondonB 19 198 725 -527 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 17 584 206 378 32
Sheffield 17 488 283 205 24
Toulouse 16 468 220 248 23
Widnes 17 410 307 103 21
Bradford 17 397 297 100 21
Doncaster 17 318 410 -92 17
 
York 18 428 345 83 16
Featherstone 17 440 359 81 16
Batley 17 284 366 -82 16
Swinton 17 342 422 -80 12
Halifax 17 318 459 -141 12
Barrow 16 255 458 -203 12
Whitehaven 17 336 556 -220 12
Dewsbury 18 224 560 -336 2
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