Given the tailspin the Tories are in, that's quite the hot take; you have a PM doggedly ploughing on with a "deal" that nobody supports, warring factions of the party appearing on TV to brief against each other, and various incompetent buffoons talking openly about being the next leader - including the unconscionably vile Esther McVey; and in the middle of all that, news broke this weekend that the Government has paid 2 million quid of public money to a fake charity, to manufacture and spread smears and lies about the leader of the HM opposition. Oh and lets not forget being the first Government in UK history to be found in contempt of Parliament...

But in the middle of all that, it's important to remember that Diane Abbot once got some numbers wrong on the telly, you don't find Angela Merkel attractive, and that Lisa Nandy is on telly a lot; smells like desperation to me - can you see it all falling apart?

Although I agree with you that the strong & stable Tories are pathetic, the biggest problem is that, apart from xenophobia & racism, most people didn't know what they were voting for (or what they would get).

Have you got one of them fancy tellies that blanks out the faces & words spewing forth from Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, David Cameron, George Osborne, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Mark Francois, Esther McVey, etc etc (does that cover the ones who boasted about hanging & knifing their leader?) plus the medieval fascists in NI?

Although I would put all of those politicians on the "hit (punch)" list, Corbyn and McDonald should be on there with them.
These two are bothered about nothing, apart from getting a shot at the "big time".

You would be hard pressed to find out any of Labours shadow cabinets views on brexit as they just sway with the political breeze, waiting for their chance in a general election and when their time does come (if it comes), we may find out where they actually stand on the issue.

Had Corbyn had the balls to say what his views were during the referendum campaign, we may not have ended up in the current mess, although he wouldn't have been quite as close to sitting in the big chair.


It does beg the question of many of our "top" politicians as to whether personal gain should be put in front of what is best for the country.

When you take a step back and view the debacle as a whole, it's a thing of wonder to behold. There's a lunatic fringe who are pushing for an absolute train wreck, not just a minor collision, but a total catastrophic derailment. And there's a small bunch of headbangers who are advocating the ensuing carnage. The rest are squabbling among themselves as to whether we should be in or out, and in turn, are trying to agree on a slightly more acceptable level of chaos.

Strong & stable.

So, last week we had the first Government ever to be in contempt of Parliament, now the meaningful vote pulled at the eleventh hour.

What a shambolic state of affairs the Tories have inflicted on the country -

The mother of Parliaments, what a crock.

Are you sure 'nobody' supports it? Plenty seem to, probably as many as support any other single faction. The real problem is for all those adopting a reasonable stance of "it's not perfect but it'll do", is that you're up against every other argumentBut in the middle of all that, it's important to remember that Diane Abbot once got some numbers wrong on the telly, you don't find Angela Merkel attractive, and that Lisa Nandy is on telly a lot; smells like desperation to me - can you see it all falling apart?'"

You have no idea how reassuring it is to realise that other people can see this, especially those of a left-wing persuasion (Labour voter? - I'm not sure).

If Corbyn had been truly honest during the referendum we'd be out, no ifs and no buts, with a Labour vote in support. He's never been a lover of the EU but as you say, he prefers opportunities to score political points, and he couldn't risk alienating his reinvigorated youth vote.

I almost pitied Barry Gardiner last night, he was clearly under strict instruction to turn the debate into a Labour party political broadcast and a push for a General Election. Unfortunately for him most could see through it and he instead he just looked oddly like a sweaty Ricky Gervais.

Why would I pay particular attention to them?

Probably the one thing in this complete shambles that everybody agrees on is that May is absolutely useless. Having said that I am surprised that people on the remain camp have rejected her deal. Mainly because it seems to keep us in the EU . As for the Irish border issues, the Irish are playing a dangerous game. If we leave without a deal Eire will suffer. Over half of Irish beef is exported to the uk. That will be subject to a heavy tariff under wto rules. Also a large section of Irish exports are trucked across England and then onto Europe through the channel ports, any delays will hit them hard.

Every chance they've had to kick the can down the road they've taken. Never underestimate their desire to hang onto power.