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| Quote: BobbyD "Ah, here we go, the usual tripe.
Pre 2008? You and the usual apologists trying to erase the depression that Balls, Brown and Wallace presided over, tell that to the million who lost their jobs. '"
Ah that old tripe. Again.
Even Gideon's own permanent secretary described what happened as a "banking crisis, pure and simple" so what part of this did Brown etc actually cause?
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| Quote: Chris28 "Ah that old tripe. Again.
Even Gideon's own permanent secretary described what happened as a "banking crisis, pure and simple" so what part of this did Brown etc actually cause?'"
Perhaps if he had heeded the warnings about issues within the banking sector rather than compounding them by relaxing regulations that might have helped reduce the impact?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Perhaps if he had heeded the warnings about issues within the banking sector rather than compounding them by relaxing regulations that might have helped reduce the impact?'"
Running a deficit in 'boom' years left us ill prepared when the downturn came.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Perhaps if he had heeded the warnings about issues within the banking sector rather than compounding them by relaxing regulations that might have helped reduce the impact?'"
Your mates Camoron and Gidiot were urging Labour to cut regulation of the banking sector even further during the entire period running up to the collapse. Not forgetting Gidiot championing the Irish economy as a model we should aspire to.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "What is this stone tablet all about?!'"
Marketing.
Like cornflakes but with a smaller budget.
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| George Osborne, writing for The Daily Telegraph in June 2006Quote I fear that much of this regulation has been burdensome, complex and makes cross-border market penetration more difficult. This is exactly the wrong direction in which Europe should be heading and it threatens the global competitiveness of the City of London.[/i
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| Oh fook, here we go again
Quote: Sal Paradise "Not quite as simple as you are setting things out
I would expect a competent government to anticipate the increase in population and invest in health and education to match those increases. But as we have seen over previous administrations, tories would rather the proles be garaged in hospital corridors and their children educated in leaky "mobiles"
Quote: Sal Paradise "I would still like to understand how come Aids is treated with such high priority within the NHS whilst cancer appears to be very hit miss. Perhaps if the NHS was re-prioitised the service would improve?'"
AIDS is relatively simple and cheap to treat these days. Don't believe the Farage rhetoric
Quote: Sal Paradise "The tax cuts to the rich is a straw man and you know it - the increases in personal allowances has reduced taxation to ordinary people far more than the cut to the mega-rich.'"
Increasing personal allowances makes little difference to the poor, it tends to benefit middle to high income earners most. The personal allowance increases were at the behest of the LimpDems and the benefits have been eclipsed by the increase in VAT, despite the "we have no plans to increase VAT" pledge. Increasing VAT is a regressive tax, it hits the poorest the hardest
Quote: Sal Paradise "I am no defender of the two toffs Cameron or Osborne but I would prefer them to the two Ed's - Balls was a hopeless chancellor, he could even get the baby P decision correct he is man of very poor judgement. Personally I would prefer Theresa May at least she looks up for the job unlike Cameron.'"
Ed Balls has NEVER been a chancellor, Gordon Brown was succeeded by Alastair Darling, both of whom AND Ed Balls are far more qualified than a 2.1 history graduate who flunked maths A level
Quote: Sal Paradise "Taxation is not a bottomless pit - I agree extracting more tax from companies who earn their profits here should be a priority. You could dump the whole GDP into the NHS and education and it still wouldn't be sufficient to satisfy your idea of what these services should deliver.'"
Now you're talking soft
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| Quote: Him "George Osborne, writing for The Daily Telegraph in June 2006Quote I fear that much of this regulation has been burdensome, complex and makes cross-border market penetration more difficult. This is exactly the wrong direction in which Europe should be heading and it threatens the global competitiveness of the City of London.[/i
David Cameron, March 2008
[iAs a free-marketeer by conviction, it will not surprise you to hear me say that a significant part of Labour’s economic failure has been the excessive bureaucratic interventionism of the past decade too much tax, too much regulation, too little understanding of what our businesses need to compete in the modern world.[/i'"
The question was what Brown could have done to ease the impact of the banking madness not what the Tories would have done. Given you believe Labour to be so superior to the Tories how come they did nothing? Do you really want the likes of Ed Balls let loose again
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The question was what Brown could have done to ease the impact of the banking madness not what the Tories would have done. Given you believe Labour to be so superior to the Tories how come they did nothing? Do you really want the likes of Ed Balls let loose again'"
I think the answer to your question is "not a lot" considering that the musical chairs game that was the international monetary trading system stopped the music first in the USA, not sure how Gordon Brown could have stopped the sub-prime mortgages or the US recession of 2007/09 that lit the fires underneath the whole pile of con artists.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Not this old fanny again?
In 1997 Labour inherited debt that was far higher than we had pre-2008 financial crisis.'"
From Andrew Neil on Twitter
@BBCr4today Miliband claims national debt was lower before crash 2007 than it was 1997. Not true
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| Quote: Him "George Osborne, writing for The Daily Telegraph in June 2006Quote I fear that much of this regulation has been burdensome, complex and makes cross-border market penetration more difficult. This is exactly the wrong direction in which Europe should be heading and it threatens the global competitiveness of the City of London.[/i
David Cameron, March 2008
[iAs a free-marketeer by conviction, it will not surprise you to hear me say that a significant part of Labour’s economic failure has been the excessive bureaucratic interventionism of the past decade too much tax, too much regulation, too little understanding of what our businesses need to compete in the modern world.[/i'"
And? It's like the captain of the titanic claiming it wasn't his fault because if the head chef had been driving he'd have hit the iceberg too! Whatever the Tories said is utterly, utterly irrelevant.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Ah that old tripe. Again.
Even Gideon's own permanent secretary described what happened as a "banking crisis, pure and simple" so what part of this did Brown etc actually cause?'"
Indeed it was, because the banks were allowed to get away with it.
There wasn't a "global crash" like Labour apologists like to claim, many, many countries didn't enter depression, only the ones that "banked" on financial services to grow the economy. Like the UK. All overseen by Blair, Brown, Balls and Wallace.
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| Quote: BobbyD "Indeed it was, because the banks were allowed to get away with it.
There wasn't a "global crash" like Labour apologists like to claim, many, many countries didn't enter depression, only the ones that "banked" on financial services to grow the economy. Like the UK. All overseen by Blair, Brown, Balls and Wallace.'"
That is absolute hogwash. Typical right wing apologist reply of blame anybody or anything but do not take responsibility even though you created the situation in the first place.
History and hypocrisy are the right wing watch words.
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| Quote: BobbyD "Indeed it was, because the banks were allowed to get away with it.
There wasn't a "global crash" like Labour apologists like to claim, many, many countries didn't enter depression, only the ones that "banked" on financial services to grow the economy. Like the UK. All overseen by Blair, Brown, Balls and Wallace.'"
...so we should have had a bigger manufacturing base to counteract the banking failures then ?
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