Does it really make a difference though ?

Of course it doesn't, except to those wanting to blame the nurse for killing herself. Only a true cretin would be surprised by the reports that she was a vulnerable individual. But there are as many of those as there are vulnerable people.

Yes, I just thought that rugby league supporters might understand that.

To what? That this woman is dead and no amount of new information is going to change that? True, but given the world wide media furore that her act caused, it think it reasonable to evaluate all new information.

And perhaps give those who were so eager to pontificate and jump to conclusions, a chance to wipe the copius amounts of egg from off their faces.

But you are right. This was a mother with mental health problems, possibly exaggerbated by spending her working week away from her family in London, who took her own life. She deserves our sympathy, but it is her family who deserve our compassion.

mmmmm sounds like as the washing was done more came out !!

I look forward to hearing Ferocious Aardvarks reply reply after he wrote.



Maybe the Lions share was Mrs Saldanhas mental health with the actions of the djs and the radio station being of smaller contibution

I look forward to hearing Cronus reply reply after he wrote.

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Now we find out she had significant Mental Health problems and had two SERIOUS suicide attempts last year. The more to the story is coming out . A sad affair with many victims and lots of people having to come to terms with a tragic incident.

If only Ms Middleton hadn't had morning sickness?
If only she'd employed a different hospital
If only they'd had a receptionist on duty?
If only Ms Saldanha hadn't picked the phone up?
If only she hadn't previously had mental problems?
If only the Aus radio station hadn't made a prank call?
If only Father Christmas existed?

If only that tower you were on about had been built in 1980.

My original post remains 100% my opinion. Unlike you, seemingly
Er, yes. She did. Maybe even on your planet they accept that now?
Credit though for managing to twist things round to the extent that you now suggest most of the "blame" for the suicide can be put on the nurse's mental health. That is truly sick, if ingenious.

I'm not sure FA as to whether you're the Oracle or the Orifice of this Forum. Perhaps you could share your thoughts on the part that her two previous suicide attempts in the last 12 months could have played.......?

And in light of these revelations, would a concerned chappie such as yourself be rather keen to ask the odious Mr Vaz what knowledge he had of this?

It's Xmas evening and I've had a couple of shandies so I'll give you that one.

Watch your back!

Well, I should give it some more thought; it's not your strong suit, but it beats the hell out of what passes for your wit.


Yes, that's pretty straightforward. None. Had the call not been broadcast around the world, there is NO reason to suppose the nurse would not have gone back to work and done her daily job, just as she uneventfully had for the years she had done it.


Why do you think I am remotely interested in Vaz?

I am 'concerned' for the victim and her family, as I can imagine what they are going through, and all for a cheap laugh and radio ratings.

Rot. What embarrasses you now, is that you posed the question of whether it was even suicide. If you are trying to suggest that my "selective quote" misrepresents what you said, sadly it doesn't.


I really don't. As I have said from the beginning, I blame the radio station who chose to broadcast the tape. And frankly don't see how any fair minded person could do otherwise.


I'm sorry - I never realised that you were her psychiatrist. Now that you have let the cat out of the bag, you may as well tell us - WHAT "significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012? Come on, you've made the claim. What "edge" was she on? What other sort of thing could have happened to push her over it? Was she just looking for an excuse, then? "Anything"? Is this your seriously considered view?

What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.

But OK, let's for a second run with your theory; this means then that it's OK to pick on people who might - for all you know or care - be vulnerable, ill, or depressed, because if they then suffer, well, that's their lookout innit, not your fault they woz a nutter, or had a weak heart, or whatever, eh?

Ironically, the presenters at the heart of the story don't actually seem a bit like that, they seem to be pretty distraught at the death. If you thought about it for a second, you would realise that the "revelations" won't actually have made one iota of difference to how they feel. Your crass take on it seems to be like "Ah, so apparently she tried to top herself before then, phew, well thank feck for that. For a minute there I felt a bit guilty"


Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate, I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true. Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them. Funny how that was [iyour[/i claimed position, but now you suddenly seem to know all the facts.


I've a plan for you, liar, either post where I said any such thing, or else apologise for lying.