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| Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino" I encourage them to think of logical explanations to the 'miracles' and parables. What part of that is brain washing them?'"
There is a logical explanation, someone made them up. And anyone peddling their mythical religious beliefs is brain washing.
Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino" Just out of interest, why do you have the flag of Israel in your signature?'"
last I saw, it was a dog?
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| Quote Standee="Standee"There is a logical explanation, someone made them up. And anyone peddling their mythical religious beliefs is brain washing.
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At what point did I suggest my beliefs were of a religious origin? I take a hypothetical story and apply logic and try to conclude with a moral, not religious, explanation. At no point do I mention God, or anything that can't be rationalised by science.
If you had read my previous posts rather than trying to suggest that I am a religious nut job, you might have realised all of this. Because you and others despise everything about religion, which I assume is based on prejudice and stereotyping, doesn't mean that people that go to church conform to your stereotype.
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last I saw, it was a dog?'"
His signature is at the bottom, not at the side, I suggest you read what I put rather than criticise me without thinking it through. It was a genuine question related to his statement about religion.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Think of all the extraordinary things that would disappear too: for the universe never to hear'"
but if we do live in an infinite universe where all things are possible then these things have already happened/are happening/will happen elsewhere many times
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| Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino"Christianity starts and ends with Jesus' teachings. Jesus wasn't the son of God'"
I don't know if you identify as a Christian or not but every Christian (or at least they have said they are Christian), I have spoken too has said that the core of Christianity is that Jesus was the son of God, Jesus died for our sins and that he was resurrected
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| Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino"You are quite entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, there probably was a bloke. The message of love thy neighbour, non-retaliation and do to those as you would unto yourself if followed by all would make the world a better place.
I don't brain wash anyone. The kids at Sunday School are encouraged to think for themselves to draw their own conclusions. I encourage them to think of logical explanations to the 'miracles' and parables. What part of that is brain washing them?
Just out of interest, why do you have the flag of Israel in your signature?'"
He may be from Israel.
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| Quote lfb="lfb"I don't if you identify as a Christian or not but every Christian (or at least they have said they are Christian), I have spoken too has said that the core of Christianity is that Jesus was the son of God, Jesus died for our sins and that he was resurrected'"
The bible was produced when people still thought the earth was the centre of the universe. It was used as a way to control the masses through fear. The sentiments of many on here is the reason why uneducated people were told that Jesus was the son of God and that he was resurrected. The church had to create awe and fear. A reason for people to go to church without fail or question. Advances in science and understanding now explains what is stated to be the work of God.
My opinion is that the core of Christianity should be the teachings of Jesus, an ordinary man that had an extraordinary understanding of man. I'm not fussed if I am classed as a Christian or not. Many people who would be classed as Christians, conventionally, do not live by or understand Christian values so how would you define a Christian?
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| Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino"
Many people who would be classed as Christians, conventionally, do not live by or understand Christian values so how would you define a Christian?'"
...and vice-versa, many who do not define themselves as Christian live by values that would be defined by others as Christian values.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"...and vice-versa, many who do not define themselves as Christian live by values that would be defined by others as Christian values.'"
Exactly! So what would you define as being a Christian then? Or are we now dividing Christianity into two groups?
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| In response to West Leeds Rhino: Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"He may be from Israel.'"
He isn't. If I mis-represent him, then I apologise in advance, but my understanding is that he a political supporter of Israel with a rather secular Zionist approach to the politics of the region.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"In response to West Leeds Rhino: He isn't. If I mis-represent him, then I apologise in advance, but my understanding is that he a political supporter of Israel with a rather secular Zionist approach to the politics of the region.'"
Mmmm  , friends of Geller and Spencer.
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| I am not a religious person but the question still remains regarding the origins of the universe. This has yet to be understood, who is to say it wasn't divine intervention?
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I am not a religious person but the question still remains regarding the origins of the universe. This has yet to be understood, who is to say it wasn't divine intervention?'"
Because we don't know (at this time) all the details of the origins of life etc - more accurately, we don't know what was before Big Bang - doesn't mean that the answer is in any way supernatural.
There [imay[/i be some bigger form of life out there, but it's safe to say that there is no evidence for any of the divine explanations for life etc that have been offered by any Earthly religion, whether now extinct or not.
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