If you did, you'd be fibbing, since at this point, you've still not read the contract, and so can't make any claims to Sky what the terms are, because you don't know, and still can't be arrsed (apparently) to find out.

Also you can't tell the bank to "only pay X", they won't do it.

I haven’t done anything about this, I said what I would do, couldn’t I change the Direct Debit to Standing order? Failing that I’d cancel the DD and make payments by Cheque.

In October last my Daughter upgraded her phone (albeit the contract was in my name) at Carphone Warehouse, she was told by the shop assistant, if she wasn’t happy with anything she could give the phone back, cancel the contract, and simply walk away, which due to network issues with O2 at the time, she tried to do just that, taking out a new contract with Vodaphone (direct) in her own name (yeah before cancelling the old one ). When she took the first phone back to Carphone Warehouse the shop assistant said ‘Yeah that’s fine, but I have to get a manager to authorise the cancellation’. Manger came along and said ‘Cancellation policy only applies to ‘new’ contracts/phones and not upgrades therefore she couldn’t cancel. It says so in the terms and conditions on the back’. (which it did).

Now with two phones and two contracts, the fun began, we cancelled the direct debit and emailed them saying we had cancelled and why, also stating that we did possibly owe one final payment from the previous contract if they advised us how much we would be happy to pay it, eventually after several emails, a nice lady phoned she agreed that my daughter had been told incorrect information and although their policy is you cannot cancel on an upgrade, it was their fault due to poor communication and lack training that their shop assistant gave her the wrong info, and as a gesture of good will they would on this occasion cancel the O2 contract, wipe off the outstanding balance from the previous contract, apologised for the inconvenience and hope that we’d return to them when the contract is again up for renewal.

difference is, you leave Sky, where do you go? (assuming you want Sky sports etc.)

I never said about leaving, I said honour the contract that they believed that they'd agreed.

I only used the phone saga to illustrate if you are told one thing but the written contract says something else, be firm stand your ground and you can win.

Virgin, BT and TopUPTV on Freeview are three that spring to mind right away.

and you can get Sky content on those, without paying, can you?

You didn't mention without paying just



I gave you three places that you can get Sky services.

I think it was fairly clear what I was getting at, to get Sky you have to pay Sky, one way or another.

Anyway, it matters not.

No you were talking crap and now you are trying to cover yourself, again.

As the premium channels are pay channels of course you have to pay, you do have a choice of provider, you'll still have the annual price rise though.

no, I wasn't talking crap, you were just mis-reading what I posted.

remember, a green username doesn't make you always right Graeme.

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You want Sky services you have to pay, but Sky aren't the only retailer of its services.

Apologies in advance if this is 'old hat', but Sky don't seem to have promoted this much... Following a recent software upgrade now means that you now don't have to subscribe to both Sports and Movies to view 3D
If you have Sky Sports HD, then you can now watch Sports on the 3D channel at no extra cost. (If you don't have the Movies, then any 3D films will continue to be blocked). If you have the entertainments package, then any Documentaries and Music shown on the 3D channel can be viewed also.
Just log into your Sky account on line (or via the i phone app) and follow the "Activate Sky 3D" links..

Not really related but on the topic of satellite TV. I currently have a poor freeview signal, no internet (use a neighbours - with permission) and no phoneline (recently moved in).

I was wondering if anybody knows about good promotions/deals on Sky/Virgin packages?

If you ain't got cable, you're fooked

Have you considered Freesat? They're supposed to have better coverage than Freeview, and you won't have to give your money to that scumbag Murdoch.