FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Sin Bin > President Assad and Mrs. al-Assad
51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Cronus "... Going into Afghanistan was bugger all to do with helping women. It was a direct result of 9/11 and the subsequent hunt for anyone and everyone associated with Al-Qaeda. That's the simple truth of it. All the supposed 'benefits' brought to the Afghan population are after the fact. The USA went after Al-Qaeda/Bin Laden with no exit strategy, and given what had just happened in New York as far as I'm concerned they were entitled to do so...'"


Yes. But one of the 'arguments' used in the media to justify it/garner support was to stress how the Taliban treated women (and others).

Quote: Cronus "... As ever, hindsight is a wonderful thing.'"


History's there for a reason.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach222No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Jul 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Mintball "History's there for a reason.'"


You are correct...

Its because it happened in the past.

World politics is a dirty business and always has been. Atrocities can be accepted if the overall influence of a certain regime is in line with what the rest of the world want for a region such as the middle east. Despite what we have been told, what history really teaches us is that at times (as mentioned) "tyrants" such as the Shah, Hussain, Gadaffi, Assad et al have suited the rest of the world (not just the west) as they stabilised the balance of power in the region preventing larger scale conflicts between nations.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Off! Number Seven "You are correct...

Its because it happened in the past...'"


And he who doesn't learn from it is condemned to repeat it.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Mintball "And he who doesn't learn from it is condemned to repeat it.'"


Especially true of Afghanistan.

We had three goes at it previously, even the might of the Soviet army couldn't manage Afghanistan. I don't think anyone has ever successfully prosecuted a conflict in Afghanistan.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Mintball "Thank you.

A post that reveals again (were it needed) that you really do not have a clue.'"


You're not into satire / extreme irony then?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13190No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Barnabus "What would you suggest?'"


Send a strongly worded letter, stating our dislike of what they are doing and ask them politely to stop.

Then, sit on the fence for a few more years.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: rover49 "Send a strongly worded letter, stating our dislike of what they are doing and ask them politely to stop.

Then, sit on the fence for a few more years.'"


What would you do – and would you also do something about all the conflicts FA linked to or just the one that's currently on our TVs?

If you don't think we should interfere in the others, why not? Why would Syria be more 'important' or whatever?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach14135No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2019Apr 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Mintball "How about what [iyou[/i would suggest?

You want to bomb more people? You want to invade, perhaps?

Big, macho things to do.

Where next? Anywhere else with nasty leaders who do nasty things?

The interfering of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has frequently worsened such situations in the past – see Iran as but one example – why would it be any different this time?

And see FA's post.

On top of that, consider this

In other words, you haven't a clue what you would do. Right?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Yes. rlThat's what I said earlier.rl

I do know, however, what NOT to do.

Are you in favour of us getting into another war, then?

And if so, can you answer the questions I just posted?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: cod'ead "We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says'"


He does not, however, suggest a solution and, indeed, touches on the problems that interference have caused.

I very much suspect many would prefer Assad to remain in power anyway – better the devil you know etc – especially with the growing political power of the Muslim Brotherhood (and others) in Egypt and questions still waiting to be answered about what that will mean.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: cod'ead "We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says'"


Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.'"


Very good point.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: "How about what [iyou[/i would suggest?'"


I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya.

Quote: "You want to bomb more people? You want to invade, perhaps?'"


Yese i am all for bombing mass murderers and tyrants.

Quote: "Where next? Anywhere else with nasty leaders who do nasty things?'"


Iran. Then any other dictatorship.

Quote: "The interfering of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has frequently worsened such situations in the past – see Iran as but one example – why would it be any different this time?'"


Generally the interference of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has improved the situationOn top of that, consider this

NHS and EU funding.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: David Titan "I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya...'"


I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.

Quote: David Titan "NHS and EU funding.'"


I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.

51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


10.35400390625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4041
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5733
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40790
Recent
Salford
karetaker
52
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4041
18s
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
35s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
2m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
2m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
3m
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
4m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
4m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
5m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1033
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
636
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1363
England's Women Demolish The W..
1188
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1428
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1210
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1472
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2009
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2217
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2460
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2025
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2266
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2733
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2157
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2234