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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "How many people went into hospital with other conditions - caught Covid in hospital and died?

I know its heresy but the NHS has not covered itself in glory when dealing with the pandemic - good job we protected it - otherwise it could have been complete carnage.

The idea that nurses - the majority of which had no involvement with Covid deserve a 12.5% pay increase is bonkers. That's unions for you - barely in touch with reality.'"


Yes, a massive failing by Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock, and the NHS Trust Management icon_biggrin.gif

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Had my Covid jab last Friday. Had it earlier than my age group would suggest because of having Epilepsy (I'm in group 6) No idea why this is the case, but I'm very grateful anyway. Hopefully this will prevent me from catching this horrible disease. Folk a lot younger than my 57 years have sadly died from Covid-19.

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Just had my invite. I’ve only just turned 50. They must be flying through the groups.

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Quote: Superblue "Yes, a massive failing by Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock, and the NHS Trust Management
Boris and Hancock treated the patients?

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I had my first ZA vaccination on Saturday morning (34, no underlying issues), and it absolutely floored me. Hopefully the 2nd one won't be as bad.

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Quote: Jack Burton "I had my first ZA vaccination on Saturday morning (34, no underlying issues), and it absolutely floored me. Hopefully the 2nd one won't be as bad.'"



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Quote: Jack Burton "I had my first ZA vaccination on Saturday morning (34, no underlying issues), and it absolutely floored me. Hopefully the 2nd one won't be as bad.'"


Had mine yesterday, had a high fever last night but a couple of ibuprofen fixed it. Didn't get much sleep but other than that I feel fine now. Second dose of AZ is better. I had the flu jab for the first time in October and it wiped me out for 4-5 days.
Worst I ever had was the old Typhoid jab. I thought someone had poured petrol on me and set me on fire.

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I had the PFizer only side effect I had was a sore arm for a couple of days

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Had the AZ one yesterday.
Very efficient conveyor belt operating at the local surgery.
Jabbed up and shovelling concrete 20 minutes later.
Side effect-less, happily.

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Looks like Boris & Co are getting the vaccine program about right.
The UK certainly seem in better shape than most of our former friends in the EU.

Perhaps the most surprising issue, is that the delays for next month appear to be due to a batch of the "oxford" vaccine being delayed in India ??

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Yes stopped by the Indian government for their own population. It sounds the same as the EU who were heavily criticised by the government but not questioned by Johnson in respect of India probably because we wants a trade deal with them.
It would appear condemnation only stretches as far as the next trade deal when everything can be forgiven or forgotten.

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Also had the Pfizer one. Same as reported from many others - arm ached for about 2 to 3 days. At night I had to sleep on the other side because it ached to lie on it, but during the day no real problems. My Mum had the same with Pfizer.

Dad had AstraZeneca. First day afterwards no symptoms, second day he felt like he had Covid for about 12 hours and had to lie in a darkened room, then had a miraculous recovery and was right as rain. Symptoms didn't even last 24 hours but he did feel rough.

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Me dad had the Pfizer and apart from a bit of discomfort with a sore arm no other problems, me mum on the other hand had the Astra Zeneca and it completely floored her for 2 days.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Yes stopped by the Indian government for their own population. It sounds the same as the EU who were heavily criticised by the government but not questioned by Johnson in respect of India probably because we wants a trade deal with them.
It would appear condemnation only stretches as far as the next trade deal when everything can be forgiven or forgotten.'"


There's politics aplenty in all of this.
Having said that The EU seem to be making a bit of a balls of their own vaccine program, too much in fighting and not enough getting on with the job and their bickering over the AZ vaccine has clearly added to their problems.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "There's politics aplenty in all of this.
Having said that The EU seem to be making a bit of a balls of their own vaccine program, too much in fighting and not enough getting on with the job and their bickering over the AZ vaccine has clearly added to their problems.'"


I don’t think it is really being run at the EU level? Individual member states may be doing poorly, and making some (imo) odd decisions, but [imostly[/i I think it is being rolled out at a national level. With some co-operation, I’m sure. But healthcare delivery is very heterogeneous across EU countries.

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