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Could the Borg Queen either assimilate this strange intruder or get shut, so us drones can get back to looking at cool stuff?

We have enough debates about Flatcappers, but Flat Earthers - what next Night Journeyists.

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Quote: theearthisflat "Ha ha ,I'm sorry to interrupt your fix for cartoons and fake CGI composites, have you just got in from school.?'"



Just got in from school, ha ha, it’s that long ago I only vaguely remember it.

I have no problem with your beliefs, likewise the Christians & Muslims etc. But they don’t come on a random backwater forum spouting their dogmas, why do you feel the need?

The Christians tell us Jesus was resurrected, the Muslims say Mohammed popped up to see God & you keep banging on about the earth being flat!

None of the aforementioned doctrines will sway my opinions.

I just like looking at stuff through my telescope & especially enjoy a good meteor shower (Note to self – Geminids coming to a sky near me 13th December)

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Yesterday (Nov. 2) marked 15 years since humans took up permanent residence in the International Space Station, and the six crewmembers on board took some time to talk about what the station means for the future of human spaceflight, and how it's holding up after more than one and a half decades in space.

That is, there have been astronauts orbiting the globe continually for 15 years, and still are. What an incredible achievement by the spacefaring countries, and what a great example of international co-operation. For example, as of now, the only transport is the Russian system, but the nationalities of the astronauts are as eclectic a mix as ever.

Because of the nature of the ISS orbit, it regularly passes over most places. I highly recommend an app called GoISSWatch which will guide you to the best opportunities and exact times etc to watch the ISS sailing serenely overhead from your location

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Meanwhile, back in reality, there's an asteroid flying by today, at a distance which is nothing in astronomical terms (nearest approach about 300,000 miles - a little more than the distance to the moon) and so presents a good chance for earth based astronomers to make some observations. Don't worry though, we are all safe - even flat earthers - as the path of the now so-nickamed "Great Pumpkin" asteroid is very well understood.

The estimated size of the "Great Pumpkin" is around 400m. Loads of info and even video here:

Superb radar images of the Halloween asteroid, and detailed explanation of the ingenious way they did it, here:
www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2015-341
Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Meanwhile, back in reality, there's an asteroid flying by today, at a distance which is nothing in astronomical terms (nearest approach about 300,000 miles - a little more than the distance to the moon) and so presents a good chance for earth based astronomers to make some observations. Don't worry though, we are all safe - even flat earthers - as the path of the now so-nickamed "Great Pumpkin" asteroid is very well understood.

The estimated size of the "Great Pumpkin" is around 400m. Loads of info and even video here:

Superb radar images of the Halloween asteroid, and detailed explanation of the ingenious way they did it, here:
www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2015-341


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Yes. I think one thread is quite enough.

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I conclude that you want to get yourself banned, since you now realize you cannot answer perfectly reasonable questions, and so your fallback is to convince yourself you're a "victim"

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In my lexicon, NASA stands for: Nazi And Space Actor. If you ever ensued to start poking around NASA the Apollo moon landings, a keen eye & open mind will bring you to the conclusion that it was a staged hoax. In fact the pure hard scientific evidence & analysis irrevocably reveals the fraud among many. Think about it, the greatest feat accomplished by man is an elaborate Hollywood production that cost the US taxpayer a cool 30 billion. Imagine what JC could create with that, it pisses me off more that NASA has built up a money-sucking colossus composed of lies, hoaxes and misinformation. The US taxpayer derives virtually no benefit from NASA'S existence & alleged scientific contributions derived by supposed explorations & experiments in space. Absent of any other sources to verify, we have had to prostate ourselves to the so-called "experts" despite irrefutable evidence that NASA's nothing more than an elaborate financial embezzler & pseudoscience peddler:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74477.jpg



Its a biased forum. BUBBLES ( you haven't answered that yet ) You keep crying to the moods You've lost you haven't gave me one single valid answer to all questions I've provided. Have a look but bare in mind my posts get deleted.

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Quote: theearthisflat "Its a biased forum. BUBBLES ( you haven't answered that yet ) You keep crying to the moods You've lost you haven't gave me one single valid answer to all questions I've provided. Have a look but bare in mind my posts get deleted.'"


Keep deluding yourself, you're great at it, but there's always room for improvement.

If you ask questions on your own thread then people might address them if they are sensible. I have asked you many times on your thread, for example, why you think the moon would look upside down when viewed from Australia, but so far you ignore it. And several other simple questions politely posed by others.

Your style is not to ask questions or give answers, it is to provide cryptic responses, and links to boring, lengthy YT videos by cranks. If you like, put up a list on your thread of a few valid individual questions which you claim have not been addressed. Instead of foaming at the mouth and insulting everyone.

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In my lexicon, NASA stands for: Nazi And Space Actor. If you ever ensued to start poking around NASA the Apollo moon landings, a keen eye & open mind will bring you to the conclusion that it was a staged hoax. In fact the pure hard scientific evidence & analysis irrevocably reveals the fraud among many. Think about it, the greatest feat accomplished by man is an elaborate Hollywood production that cost the US taxpayer a cool 30 billion. Imagine what JC could create with that, it pisses me off more that NASA has built up a money-sucking colossus composed of lies, hoaxes and misinformation. The US taxpayer derives virtually no benefit from NASA'S existence & alleged scientific contributions derived by supposed explorations & experiments in space. Absent of any other sources to verify, we have had to prostate ourselves to the so-called "experts" despite irrefutable evidence that NASA's nothing more than an elaborate financial embezzler & pseudoscience peddler:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74477.jpg



The answers are in the linked video's confirming your questions. I really can't be pd telling you to be honest your cognitive dissonance gets in the way of reason. Maybe I should sample my evidence in cartoon form ha ha

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So why is it that the moon looks "upside down" when viewed from Australia?

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In my lexicon, NASA stands for: Nazi And Space Actor. If you ever ensued to start poking around NASA the Apollo moon landings, a keen eye & open mind will bring you to the conclusion that it was a staged hoax. In fact the pure hard scientific evidence & analysis irrevocably reveals the fraud among many. Think about it, the greatest feat accomplished by man is an elaborate Hollywood production that cost the US taxpayer a cool 30 billion. Imagine what JC could create with that, it pisses me off more that NASA has built up a money-sucking colossus composed of lies, hoaxes and misinformation. The US taxpayer derives virtually no benefit from NASA'S existence & alleged scientific contributions derived by supposed explorations & experiments in space. Absent of any other sources to verify, we have had to prostate ourselves to the so-called "experts" despite irrefutable evidence that NASA's nothing more than an elaborate financial embezzler & pseudoscience peddler:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74477.jpg





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So if the earth is flat, as you maintain, and not a globe, as I maintain, what possible perspective effect could it be that makes the moon look upside down to two different observers standing on the same flat surface?

Why will you not answer this very simple question?

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In my lexicon, NASA stands for: Nazi And Space Actor. If you ever ensued to start poking around NASA the Apollo moon landings, a keen eye & open mind will bring you to the conclusion that it was a staged hoax. In fact the pure hard scientific evidence & analysis irrevocably reveals the fraud among many. Think about it, the greatest feat accomplished by man is an elaborate Hollywood production that cost the US taxpayer a cool 30 billion. Imagine what JC could create with that, it pisses me off more that NASA has built up a money-sucking colossus composed of lies, hoaxes and misinformation. The US taxpayer derives virtually no benefit from NASA'S existence & alleged scientific contributions derived by supposed explorations & experiments in space. Absent of any other sources to verify, we have had to prostate ourselves to the so-called "experts" despite irrefutable evidence that NASA's nothing more than an elaborate financial embezzler & pseudoscience peddler:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74477.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So if the earth is flat, as you maintain, and not a globe, as I maintain, what possible perspective effect could it be that makes the moon look upside down to two different observers standing on the same flat surface?

Why will you not answer this very simple question?'"


Pointless trying to explain to trolling Neanderthal's the best cartoon like adaptation I could come up with is this.

This is fabulous piece of work by Rob Skiba converting stellarium to the flat earth model. Stellarium is a free software you can download on-line. It is a heliocentric, globe-based program. However, by setting the location view to essentially be at the centre of the South Pole, and using the Stereographic view mode (with all of the stars and planets turned off), Rob was able to get a view of the sun and moon orbiting the Earth. From that particular view however, the orbit was anti -clockwise, so all he did was flip it to be a clockwise rotation and then laid it over the Flat Earth model with a screen filter. This was the end result. What amazed me though was how it literally shows the sun speeding up and slowing down, depending on how tight or wide the circuit was. Rob didn't do that. Stellarium did. This shows how the time of day remains consistent, whether in January or in June.

I'm still awaiting globe evidence since page 1. Moon phases are shown here which should answer BUBBLES's questions. But no doubt the trolls won't understand what Rob is showing here. Sun an moon circuits should explain both phases ( upside down too) and eclipses.rlhttps://youtu.be/R52_PdZlSq8?t

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Feck me, your gormcloptitude is of a fierce preserve.

Latest evidence update.

Link to a You Tube video where the author freely admits that they have manipulated a piece of software that demonstrates something else to prove their own idiotic viewpoint.

Can you hear that sound?

Probably not as there won't be many echoes on your Earth, it's the sound of seven billion people giving you a slow hand clap whilst feeling awfully sorry for you and patting you on the head, me, myself, am a charitable Goose, i'm just warming some milk to mix in with your Farley's rusk.

Please tell me, this is you Mugwump, conducting some sort of online Milgram.

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11:00
Penrith
v
Souths
       Championship 2024-R24
19:30
Bradford
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Hull KR
v
Salford
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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