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Cronus, do you really think that she will lead the Tories into the next general election, really ??

You say there is no appetite for a GE, which, of course there isnt, as they (the Tories) would probably lose.

However, within her own part, there are plenty wanting rid of her.
Most are keeping their powder dry but, that doesn't mean that they are not plotting and biding their time.

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I'm 65 and in my opinion Thatcher is by far the worst PM I've had to endure. She lacked compassion, ruined the countrys manufacturing base, took the country to war, increased the homeless on our streets, deregulated the banks, made her son a millionaire knight...need i go on?

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May is weak, and I don't me personally, just has no backing from her party MPs . We have to remember it was a pretty bad selection to choose from overall, and even now, it is hard to see anyone who could unite the Tories, let alone May who is just about holding the cabinet together and that is probably because Boris is there.

They are close to capitulating, but I don't really see it happening in 2018, probably just before we leave in 2019 unless they can pull the unlikely out of the bag with EU negoiations........

Whatever happens she will be out of time before 2022.

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Quote: silver2 "I'm 65 and in my opinion Thatcher is by far the worst PM I've had to endure. She lacked compassion, ruined the countrys manufacturing base, took the country to war, increased the homeless on our streets, deregulated the banks, made her son a millionaire knight...need i go on?'"


Yes you could go on! The deregulation of the banks ultimately led to the banking crisis of 2008 (PIP mis-selling, sub prime lending Northern Rock, etc..). The then Chancellor Alistair Darling had to then implement measures that were then compared to Labour's 1983 manifesto! When Chris Mullen MP later told the Chancellor that he had just implemented Labour's 1983 manifesto, he replied 'Yes, and with enthusiastic Tory support!!')

And what do we have now e.g. Sir Philip Green former tax advisor (very careful where he pays his taxes, everything is in wife's name, who is resident in the tax haven of Monaco!) to ex PM Cameron. Sir Philip sells BHS to a chancer for £1 after pocketing all the assets. BHS then goes bust and 11,000 people lose their jobs and then just for good measure he takes £500,000,000 out the pension fund. So retirees current and future can now look forward to a reduced pension. When challenged to this he pays back a fraction of what he took out, but only out of shear embarrassment.

All this was done legally! Prime Minister said 'the BHS scandal was unacceptable and wanted to reform capitalism and would bring in government measures to do so'. It should be no surprise that this promise along with all the others uttered by Mrs.May has come to nothing and it's business as usual in the 'City'.

Mrs.May was very quick though to find £1,500,000,000 after the last GE (blows a 20 point lead in the polls, after a completely inept performance) as a bribe to the DUP for their support after losing her majority. We were constantly told though there was no magic money tree, but apparently there was when her own political skin was a risk! It's a shame the same urgency cannot be found for the NHS or the homeless! icon_confused.gif

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more socialist worker rhetoric, this place is daft.

majority of posters would probably remove the right to vote from women and anyone under 60

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "more socialist worker rhetoric, this place is daft.

majority of posters would probably remove the right to vote from women and anyone under 60'"


Yes, the well known socialist policies of removing votes from women and young people... d040.gif

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Quote: bren2k "Yes, the well known socialist policies of removing votes from women and young people... no, not policy, just what I can tell from certain posters. I would imagine I could chuck homophobic and xenophobic in there for some as well.

every thread is basically "when I was a lad" just worded differently, it is all "Thatchers' fault", no acknowledgent of the Unions role in the demise of the economy, the illegal war in Iraq, invading Afghanistan, selling gold at a record low,

Socialism is great, I mean, it works in, eeeeerm, nowhere.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "no, not policy, just what I can tell from certain posters'"


Ooookaaay then...

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "no, not policy, just what I can tell from certain posters. I would imagine I could chuck homophobic and xenophobic in there for some as well.

every thread is basically "when I was a lad" just worded differently, it is all "Thatchers' fault", no acknowledgent of the Unions role in the demise of the economy, the illegal war in Iraq, invading Afghanistan, selling gold at a record low,

Socialism is great, I mean, it works in, eeeeerm, nowhere.'"


New Labour werent socialists

Regards

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Unfortunately may is a weak prime minister. She is definitely not a conservative, she is following on in Cameron’s footsteps. He was a big fan of Blair, so converted the tories into a European style socialist democrat party. She has carried on with this theme. Remember as Home Secretary she virtually abolished stop and search. Part of the knife crime carnage in London is down to her weakness. Not forgetting citizen khans woeful term as London mayor. Both main political parties are weak and have cornered the market in dimwits. The majority seem to be in the Labour Party. Heaven help this country if jezza and his Trotsky/Marx comrades come to power. Jus remember what Winston Churchill said of socialism “ it’s a philosophy of failure the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. It’s inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery “

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Quote: Backwardsman " Jus remember what Winston Churchill said of socialism “ it’s a philosophy of failure the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. It’s inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery “'"


I also remember what he said about the Conservatives. "A party of great vested interests, banded together in a formidable confederation, corruption at home, aggression to cover it up abroad...sentiment by the bucketful, patriotism by the imperial pint, the open hand at the public exchequer, the open door at the public house, dear food for the millions, cheap labour for the millionaire."

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So it looks like May maybe taking us to war with Syria without consulting parliament. I have a feeling this may end up being more of an Iraq than a Falklands or Kosovo. Surely, we should wait until we heat the evidence that a chemical attack has been carried out, especially after the last one was proven to be false.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Charlie Sheen "So it looks like May maybe taking us to war with Syria without consulting parliament. I have a feeling this may end up being more of an Iraq than a Falklands or Kosovo. Surely, we should wait until we heat the evidence that a chemical attack has been carried out, especially after the last one was proven to be false.'"


I hope she sees sense. Russia would utterly destroy us in a war.

And please, before someone links some daily mail propoganda about Russia’s ageing aircraft carrier fleet, just don’t and actually do your own research

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



BBC breakfast news presenter getting made to look like a right idiot by the former ambassador to Syria. It’s absolutely glorious!

Thank god for people like him

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Ramping up the level of conflict in Syria, against Russia and without any parliamentary debate is just lunacy.
Eventually we will always follow the US, the price that we have to pay to maintain the "special relationship" but, to start launching missiles at Assaad is futile, it wont achieve anything and it will change nothing, just like the last time.

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