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| Such a sad moment. Been down to Elland Road to lay down one of shirts for one of my all time heroes, and all round great guy. Looked to be doing great things at Wales. Shocked.
RIP Gary.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "terrible news.... apparently the press were about to release a damaging story about him.'"
Is this true? Where have you heard this? PM me if you don't want to say in the thread.
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| Quote: Mintball "A lot I agree with in this – although I would point out that the "state of mind" of the RL community didn't prevent Terry Newton taking his own life, so I don't think it's necessarily that simple.
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I thought the campaign came after Terrys death.
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| Exactly. Brian Carney was a major mover in the campaign because of the loss of his mate.
In one of Robbie Savages interviews he said that Speed was alwaye there to help others, why coudn't he have just spoken to someone himself.
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5728.jpg [b]The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind
The kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday.
Do one thing everyday that scares you.
Don’t be reckless with other people’s hearts, don’t put up with people who are reckless with yours.
Don’t waste your time on jealousy-sometimes you’re ahead, sometimes
you’re behind…the race is long, and in the end, it’s only with yourself[/b]:5728.jpg |
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| It did.
Was so shocked to hear the news this morning. Cannot imagine how desperate he would have to feel. His poor family.
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| Quote: Sadfish "I thought the campaign came after Terrys death.'"
Indeed. But in other words, it took a tragic loss of life to create a campaign.
That's not a criticism a all, BTW, but it suggests a traumatic path that requires a tragedy to trigger it.
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| Quote: Marcus Notsquare "In one of Robbie Savages interviews he said that Speed was alwaye there to help other, why coudn't he have just spoken to someone himself.'"
Suicide doesn't just happen to people who know they have issues though. A women in my work lost her mother to suicide this year, she was happy as larry, had just seen the Grandchild she'd always wanted born and was really looking forward to a family holiday that she'd planned. One day she just stepped over the side of the motorway bridge she crossed almost daily, no one could believe it.
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| Quote: Mintball "Indeed. But in other words, it took a tragic loss of life to create a campaign.
That's not a criticism a all, BTW, but it suggests a traumatic path that requires a tragedy to trigger it.'"
Absolutely.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Suicide doesn't just happen to people who know they have issues though. A women in my work lost her mother to suicide this year, she was happy as larry, had just seen the Grandchild she'd always wanted born and was really looking forward to a family holiday that she'd planned. One day she just stepped over the side of the motorway bridge she crossed almost daily, no one could believe it.'"
SRI's can develop unchecked over years either by the person or their friends, then suddenly a trigger will set it all off, and within 10 mins the person has hung themselves at worst or broken down to someone they know etc...
Sadly it seems the more high profile a person is the more likely they don't confide in anyone.
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| Anyone who hasn't seen it, have a look at the article Stan Collymore wrote on his twitter about depression. It really brings it home and it is very poignant considering it was written yesterday.
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| Wow, can't believe this. One of my heros.
I remember meeting him as a child, when he used to come and do his bit for welsh football by watching my local team Colwyn Bay.
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| Quote: Mintball "Indeed. But in other words, it took a tragic loss of life to create a campaign.
That's not a criticism a all, BTW, but it suggests a traumatic path that requires a tragedy to trigger it.'"
A fair point well put, Minty, but the problem is that you often don't know such a thing is required until something tragic happens.
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| I'd not had the TV on most of yesterday morning so when my flatmate texted "Have you seen about Gary Speed?", my first thought was that he'd resigned / been sacked - nothing like what had actually happened. After turning on the TV, my jaw just dropped.
I was about 9/10 when I started watching Leeds United and Gary was one of my favourite players. He was a gifted player, an honest player and someone who seemed to always have time for the fans (I seem to remember being on one of Leeds United's soccer camps in the school holidays and Speed making an apperance). I just couldn't believe that, at 42, one of my boyhood heroes had gone.
I know a lot more about mental health problems that I'd like to and I can't begin to imagine what Gary was going through to do what he did or what his family are going through now. If it is a long term thing, then it is common for people to try and "mask" the problem, especially for someone who is in both a relatively "macho" environment and someone who is in the public eye and pressured into giving off the "right" image. If this has come about because of press intrusion.... I don't want to post what I think of those responsible.
At a time when so many professional footballers are, to be frank, complete c**ks, it is easy to forget about good people like Gary Speed.
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| Reading the papers today you would never know that a soldier was killed in action yesterday.
A wealthy ex footballer who it would appear had everything kills himself and it steals the headlines. Sad I will accept but is it worthy of the front page.
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| It's easy to bag the press, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't demand for it. Celebrity scandals sell papers bizarely. The longer people continue to buy such rubbish, the longer they'll keep churning it up.
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