We've had some poor Prime Ministers in the past but, I really cant remember the country having such a lame duck.
Everyone realises that she has to go and even the ministers coming out in support of her, aren't exactly glowing in their praise.
If the highest recommendation of any leader is that they managed to complete a speech, despite having a cold, it's a real worry.
Of course, the elephant in the room is the spit party, standing behind her, which is certainly holding back any would be contenders, not to mention the sand slipping through the Brexit hourglass so quickly.

Although I dont like the bloke, they should put Farage in charge of Brexit or, someone who can put party politics to one side.
Get the thing done and lets move forward, because, right now, the country is going to slide towards yet another recession and probably take the EU27 with it.

Wow - there's pragmatism, and there's downright desperation; that's quite possibly the worst idea I've seen around Brexit, short of actually doing it.

Why, exactly? Give me your list of (I'm sure) well-considered reasons 'she has to go'.

Wactching Channel 4 News isn't a reason.
You want me to give you reasons why she "has to go".

1/ The primary reason that would be that she is a diabolical leader of both her own party and the country.
2/ Calling an election (breaking the 5 year rule that her own party put in place), to secure an increased majority and allow "strong and stable" government and yet leaving the country with a hung parliament.
3/ Allowing her own ministers (Boris) to publicly mock her and go against party line.

Do you really need me to go on ffs.

Everyone knows that she will not lead the Tories into the next election and her "colleagues" in the Tory party are circling like groups of wild animals, ready to divide up her political corpse.
They are just working out who and when they will go for the kill.

She looked like a jibbering wind bag in the election campaign and clearly, she is just not up to leading her party or, the country.

When she does go, there will still be a huge problem for her successor, in that, the Tories are bitterly divided on Europe (as are Labour) and making decisions that ruffle the feathers of either side will make them equally unpopular both within their own party and amongst the electorate.

I find it quite amusing that you believe that things are progressing pretty much "as expected".
The Tories expected to pretty much wipe Labour off the political landscape and had that happened, then perhaps she could have driven through some of her ideas and policies.

As things have turned out, we have an impotent government, clinging onto power by doing a "deal" with the DUP (who have yet to take full advantage of their influence) and in light of recent events with the US levy on Bombardier (the same US that we were pinning our hopes of an early trade deal), this situation has become somewhat more polarised.

Perhaps you could enlighten us on just how you think life after Brexit will pan out, paying particular attention to a hard/soft border with N. Ireland and tariffs in either direction with the EU27.

As for the leftist press, get real, there is and has been for some time massive media bias in favour of the right wing of British politics and does anyone watch channel 4 they have about as much influence on British politics as Mrs May, about zero.

I agree with you on mass migration, an "experiment" which was always going to cause far more problems than it solved.

However, was it yourself or one of your other "friends" on here, who predicted the fall of the leaders of the "Euro friendly" nations.

France, Germany, Holland etc, have all re-elected Pro-Euro leaders and your own prophecies seem to be further than ever from reality.

Regarding the self serving rulers in Brussels, again, I agree with you but, remember, we have our very own version of this both in Westminster and the House of Lords - All aboard the gravy train.

1/ In your view, which is formed by what you see/read in the media. Unless you're a cabinet member of course.
2/ Any party would have strongly considered doing the same in the same position, and most would have gone ahead. Remember, they were flying in the polls. What went wrong was that some idiot decided an election campaign was the best time to announce 'difficult' policies. Nevertheless...they still won, whatever Corbyn thinks.
3/ Nothing in it except certain sections of the media hanging on his every syllable, desperate for some scandal.


They do? Despite pretty much everyone (even most journalists) saying there is no appetite within the Tory Party for a change of leadership (the occasional opportunist MP aside)?


In terms of the EU, yes they are. Talks are difficult but ongoing, the EU are showing their bitter colours and pretty much every journalist on our screens laps up everything Barnier spews while blindly condemning Davis. I've always said extricating ourselves from the EU would not be easy.


I've given my view several times on here.

Cronus, do you really think that she will lead the Tories into the next general election, really ??

You say there is no appetite for a GE, which, of course there isnt, as they (the Tories) would probably lose.

However, within her own part, there are plenty wanting rid of her.
Most are keeping their powder dry but, that doesn't mean that they are not plotting and biding their time.

I'm 65 and in my opinion Thatcher is by far the worst PM I've had to endure. She lacked compassion, ruined the countrys manufacturing base, took the country to war, increased the homeless on our streets, deregulated the banks, made her son a millionaire knight...need i go on?

May is weak, and I don't me personally, just has no backing from her party MPs . We have to remember it was a pretty bad selection to choose from overall, and even now, it is hard to see anyone who could unite the Tories, let alone May who is just about holding the cabinet together and that is probably because Boris is there.

They are close to capitulating, but I don't really see it happening in 2018, probably just before we leave in 2019 unless they can pull the unlikely out of the bag with EU negoiations........

Whatever happens she will be out of time before 2022.

Yes you could go on! The deregulation of the banks ultimately led to the banking crisis of 2008 (PIP mis-selling, sub prime lending Northern Rock, etc..). The then Chancellor Alistair Darling had to then implement measures that were then compared to Labour's 1983 manifesto! When Chris Mullen MP later told the Chancellor that he had just implemented Labour's 1983 manifesto, he replied 'Yes, and with enthusiastic Tory support!!')

And what do we have now e.g. Sir Philip Green former tax advisor (very careful where he pays his taxes, everything is in wife's name, who is resident in the tax haven of Monaco!) to ex PM Cameron. Sir Philip sells BHS to a chancer for £1 after pocketing all the assets. BHS then goes bust and 11,000 people lose their jobs and then just for good measure he takes £500,000,000 out the pension fund. So retirees current and future can now look forward to a reduced pension. When challenged to this he pays back a fraction of what he took out, but only out of shear embarrassment.

All this was done legally! Prime Minister said 'the BHS scandal was unacceptable and wanted to reform capitalism and would bring in government measures to do so'. It should be no surprise that this promise along with all the others uttered by Mrs.May has come to nothing and it's business as usual in the 'City'.

Mrs.May was very quick though to find £1,500,000,000 after the last GE (blows a 20 point lead in the polls, after a completely inept performance) as a bribe to the DUP for their support after losing her majority. We were constantly told though there was no magic money tree, but apparently there was when her own political skin was a risk! It's a shame the same urgency cannot be found for the NHS or the homeless!

more socialist worker rhetoric, this place is daft.

majority of posters would probably remove the right to vote from women and anyone under 60

Yes, the well known socialist policies of removing votes from women and young people...

Ooookaaay then...

New Labour werent socialists

Regards

King James