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Quote: El Barbudo "Sorry but that's a simplistic view.

It only takes a shift of 30% of trade from the independent to the supermarket to finish off the independent shop because that's his margin wiped out.
So, whilst potentially 70% of shoppers in a locale (let's just say a majority) might prefer the small independents, even if they stay loyal the independents still go bust.

No supermarket has an absolute monopoly but the power intrinsic in their sheer size means they have the same advantage over an independent as if they did have a monopoly.
Virtually the only ones who can compete in those circumstances are other supermarket chains ... and starting a supermarket chain from small beginnings these days is well-nigh impossible.

M&S started in 1884, Morrison's in 1889 ... they'd have no chance of the same growth if they were starting out now.'"


You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?

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Quote: Kosh "Her policies were the root cause of our housing crisis & benefits crisis just for starters.'"

I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius

All of which would have been quite laudable if she'd allowed the proceeds to be reinvested in new, affordable social housing. But she didn't, for purely ideological reasons. And now there's a massive shortage of affordable housing.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius

The irony of it was a fair few miners bought their council houses...with their redundancy payoff.

Personally couldn't stand the women...Ripped my community part. Had the Falklands war hadn't happened she probably wouldn't have got a second term.

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Quote: Rock God X "All of which would have been quite laudable if she'd allowed the proceeds to be reinvested in new, affordable social housing. But she didn't, for purely ideological reasons. And now there's a massive shortage of affordable housing.'"


Well said eusa_clap.gif

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what a disgusting thread, extremely bad taste.

condolensces to her family

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Quote: SaintsFan "I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius


And by legislating so that Local Authorities could not use the money from council house sales to build more council houses contributed massively to lack of affordable and social housing we see now.

The net result is that Osborne is taxing spare bedrooms to penalise people who live in council housing because there is not enough council housing to go around.

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Quote: SaintsFan "When she took over we were labelled the 'sick man of Europe' and we had experienced the 'winter of discontent' when rubbish piled up on the streets and the dead were left unburied. She saved us from subsequent years of that kind of unelected union domination which was crucifying our country.'"


Do you honestly believe that only happened in 1979?

It happens every winter, my mate died in hospital on 9th March, he was buried on 2nd April. He died in hospital of major organ failure, the PM was completed within two days. The delay in burial was simply down to the fact that more people die in winter than the system can cope with.

As for rubbish piling up in the streets, take a look at Birmingham after the last snows, it took nearly three weeks to clear the black bags

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Disgusting thread? She was a disgusting woman, grim reaping what she sowed.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Sal Paradise "You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?'"

Can we blame them for price fixing? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7132108.stm

For selling horse meat labelled as something else?

for completely losing track of where their food comes from?

For selling illegal cloned meat? www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink ... chain.html

For misleading pricing? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20543107

For holding undeveloped land banks? www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 69513.html

back labelling and selling out of date foods? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm
Quote: Sal Paradise "You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?'"

Can we blame them for price fixing? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7132108.stm

For selling horse meat labelled as something else?

for completely losing track of where their food comes from?

For selling illegal cloned meat? www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink ... chain.html

For misleading pricing? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20543107

For holding undeveloped land banks? www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 69513.html

back labelling and selling out of date foods? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm


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rlThe dictate that one 'not speak ill of the dead' is (at best) appropriate for private individuals, not influential public figuresrl

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Quote: WormInHand "Disgusting thread? She was a disgusting woman, grim reaping what she sowed.'"


Let's hope there's a sizeable turnout of protesters at her funeral and she gets the send off she so richly deserves.

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Looks like the sick, twisted sadists are out in force. Wonder how they would feel if people celebrated the death of their loved ones. Also shows the so-called "humanitarianism" of the left for what it truly is - a total facade to cover the fact that left-wingers don't care about facts, morality or human life, just an outdated totalitarian theory of government and economics.

Thatcher did more to raise the material condition of the British people, including the working classes, in 11 years than socialism achieved in c70 years in the USSR. Of course lefties like Big Graeme don't really care about the poor, just his own nonsensical ideology.

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rlNo minute's silence at Old Trafford tonightrl

Wise move, I can't imagine that would have been observed with any dignity

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Quote: David Titan "Wonder how they would feel if people celebrated the death of their loved ones. '"


Read the article McLennan has linked to.

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