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| Quote: Durham Giant "You are the one accusing everyone else of having a conspiracy theory because we do not have the full facts.
When you have to resort to insults you have really lost the arguement.
Please tell us why those who still think there is a lot of information to come out are conspiracy theorists which is where the argument started.
You just keep changing the nature of the discussion'"
Look, when you post such utter tripe it's only worthy of insults.
But hang on - so do I think there's a conspiracy, or am I accusing you of thinking there's a conspiracy? You seemed to be muddled because you've said two different things in your last two posts.
Anyway, I've covered it several times in intimate detail. You and rumpelforeskin both claim not to believe there is some conspiracy or cover-up and that you are above such theories, yet you both continue imply some conspiracy or cover-up in every post you make.
If you don't understand by now or are choosing to ignore my posts to just carry on banging away with this question, there's no point bothering. Go back, read what I've said to you and rumpelforeskin and let it soak in.
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| I have been clear in that i do not have enough information about a number of matters which i keep asking you about
What was her Mental Health
Were there other factors that contributed to her suicide
did management deal with it properly.
You seem to think these are not important issues. Most reasonable peole would before they jump on a bandwagon.
If they are important say so, if you know the answers say so, if you think we do not have this information then surely you agree there is more information to come out.
It is simple really it is just you dont seem to understand it
It is simple. Answer the questions and stop accusing everyone else of being a conspiracy theorist.
I notice that you did not answer the comment about you defending a racist South African killing three people who raped his daughter when he did not even have a daughter.
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| What a ridiculous thread, indicative of the pathetic nature of The Sin Bin these days.
For what it's worth, I kind of agree with DG and rumpelstiltskin in that there are likely to be more to come out in this. No cover-ups, conspiracies or any of that sort of tinfoil hat rubbish. Simply more facts to give a clearer picture of why it was this woman ended up doing what she did. Personally I don't believe being on the receiving end of this prank was the reason (or sole reason, at least) behind it. I don't think that's an unreasonable opinion to hold and certainly not one of a conspiracy theorist...
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| Quote: rumpelstiltskin " From a Master Debater such as you, that is a very valid point......'"
OTOH
Quote: rumpelstiltskin "
When you have to resort to insults you have really lost the arguement.
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You two need to pay closer attention to your hymn sheet!
Quote: rumpelstiltskin "Please tell us why those who still think there is a lot of information to come out are conspiracy theorists which is where the argument started.
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Who said they were? Those “who still think there is a lot of information to come out” are numpties, because they are doing no more than stating the bleedin’ obvious, as if it was some marvellous insight.
Whereas the conspiracy theorists, OTOH, are those suggesting a conspiracy.
It is (obviously) possible to be in both categories, but the two are equally obviously not both the same thing; as you are having endless trouble understanding this, those who think there is a lot of information to come out, might also be chicken sexers. But it doesn’t inevitably follow.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "I have been clear in that i do not have enough information about a number of matters which i keep asking you about
What was her Mental Health
Were there other factors that contributed to her suicide
did management deal with it properly.
You seem to think these are not important issues. Most reasonable peole would before they jump on a bandwagon.
If they are important say so, if you know the answers say so, if you think we do not have this information then surely you agree there is more information to come out.
It is simple really it is just you dont seem to understand it
It is simple. Answer the questions and stop accusing everyone else of being a conspiracy theorist.'"
I answered your questions on page 17.
You ignored it.
For the third time - do you actually read what you're responding to?
Quote: Durham Giant "I notice that you did not answer the comment about you defending a racist South African killing three people who raped his daughter when he did not even have a daughter.'"
WTF? You're dragging up something from 18 months ago? What planet are you on? Tell you what, if you can find where I said EXACTLY that I'll answer it. Until then wind your neck in.
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| Quote: rumpelstiltskin " let's start with my opinion on page 15, "That there was more to his (about this tragic woman) and it would all come out in the wash." Which prompted …the rather bizarre observation of [iI'm sure you do, but what, if you're implying you have a good idea? I have already seen nutty conspiracy theories that the nurse was assassinated and it's all a cover-up, but then nowadays it is de rigueur for the lunatics to come out of the asylum for a while whenever there's a good conspiracy to be theorised.[/i'"
Liar, It was your WHOLE original post “which prompted” my comment on what you had posted. You are trying to squirm out by suggesting I was referring to that sentence in isolation, when you bloody well know it wasn’t. That last bit was on the end of “Their apparent failure to follow long established protocols regarding access and Media intrusion to members of the Royal Family, could now be conveniently forgotten in the witch hunt fanned by a post Leveson Press, all eager to display their "lessons have been learned credentials"
My second one; what reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident,'"
Now stop being disingenuous and selectively quoting your own drivel. Those were and are YOUR WORDS, in the same post. It was your post, READ AS A WHOLE, that prompted my observation.
In the whole post you said
As well as being a bizarre first thought, it’s obvious what you’re implying. You are using a basic literary device which screams to the reader, “NO, THIS WAS NO STROKE OF LUCK FOR THE HOSPITAL, HOW NAÏVE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE TO BELIEVE THAT”
Quote: rumpelstiltskin " My second one; what reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident" '"
Clearly meaning you don’t believe, however she died, that she killed herself over a work incident. Taken together, you think it was a very convenient death for the hospital (because, you said, their failures “could now be conveniently forgotten in the witch hunt ..”).
Coupled with your first thought, it is crystal clear what you are suggesting, and it is in that context that your closing remark is explained. The above is what you actually SAID..
Quote: rumpelstiltskin " FA then returns to his task of Straw Man building with [iIn the face of the bleedin' obvious, I find completely speculative suggestions that she may have been killed to be the worst sort of baseless conspiracy speculation of which so many seem to be so fond'
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Whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that it is only him and Cronius, who are banging on ad naueum about any kind of conspiracy! 'Kin unbelievable! '"
Well, let’s pause for a moment, so you can tell me what you actually MEANT, if not the above.
My breath is bated.
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| Quote: Kosh "Good article. And I'd agree with where the greatest responsibility lies as well.
I feel that some of the reaction, at least, has been OTT. And on the radio this morning I heard that there are now fears that the female DJ could harm herself as a result of the responsibility she feels. I think it would be better for everyone to draw breath and stand back a little before this spirals completely out of control.'"
Mmmmm!
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| Oh well, the post mortem result states that the nurse hanged herself. A note from her for her family was also found at the scene. There can be no debate about her death being a suicide now.
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| A bit more detail in the Mirror about why the family are so angry at the hospitalNurse Jacintha Saldanha wrote three emotional notes revealing the anguish that led to her suicide after she was duped by two Aussie DJs into believing they were royalty.
In one, the distraught mum-of-two outlines how she struggled to come to terms with the prank call by Mel Greig and Michael Christian to the hospital where pregnant Duchess Kate was being treated for severe morning sickness.
But in another she criticises senior colleagues at the King Edward VII hospital over her treatment after the pair had pretended to be the Queen and Prince Charles asking about the duchess’s condition. That note is said to have left her family furious.
full reporthttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-prank-call-royal-1488880rl
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| Well, well. Informed comment predicted there would be more to come out in the wash, and we now find out that there were three seperate suicide notes left by this disturbed person.
The longest of which is reported as a massive whinge against the Hospital Authorities. I do hope this doesn't set off the usual suspects on another knee jerking 20 page conspiracy diatribe....
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Oh well, the post mortem result states that the nurse hanged herself. A note from her for her family was also found at the scene. There can be no debate about her death being a suicide now.'"
Maybe you should have a word with the authorities, it seems a great waste of public money to adjurn the inquest until March 2013. What's the point when you already know what the conclusion is?
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| Quote: WIZEB "She probably got a right good fooking off her gaffers, although they denied it.
They would, wouldn't they?'"
Straw that perhaps broke the fragile camels back?
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| Quote: rumpelstiltskin "Well, well. Informed comment predicted there would be more to come out in the wash, '"
... says the original conspiracist as his biplane, "Dark Hints", heads for the ground in flames. You couldn't make it up. Yes it would be merciful if you would accept your "first and second thoughts" were nonsense, and withdraw them. Doubt it will happen though.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Even now you still try to defend your indefensible position. Your view simplified is that It was so obvious that more would come out in the wash that it was a ridiculous and obvious thing to say
Yet when someone states the obvious you start an 8 page thread accusing someone of stating the obvious of being a conspiracy theorist.
Yet the reality is simple as more comes out in the wash we will see the truth or more of the truth about what happened such as the contents of letter NO2 which details how Ms Saldanha felt about the hospital managements actions.
That will tell us about where the responsibility or blame lies maybe a little less against the two DJs and a bit more about the role of the hospital managers and the role of the radio station managers.
At the time of RS post many on here were quick to blame the two DJS solely for what happened. Some of us thought that was a bit simplistic.
Sounds like there is still a lot more to come out in the wash or am i stating the obvious and likely to be labelled a conspiracy theorist
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| Do keep up FA.
If you were asked by the nice nurse how many jelly babies were on your bedside cabinet, and there was a red one, a black one and an orange one, take a moment now, what is the answer?
Come along now, it's not a trick question...... yes, it's THREE. Good boy!
And if nursey was to replace them with the same number of your favourite toys?....yes, that is also THREE!
Similarly, if you were to substitute those for letters scrawled in your bestest handwriting to Santa?......No, it doesn't matter what you have put inside the envelopes....you'd like a big red fire engine ....yes, you DO sound just like the siren on one of them,... but if we could just concentrate a little bit longer?.... that would also be THREE!
Good Boy. Doctor Rumpel is pleased with your progress today.
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