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Quote: IR80 "And you, of course, have evidence that a SINGLE death can be attributed to Boris... no, of course you don't, you are typical of all the left wing stagers on here, full of hate and envy of ANYTHING remotely other than rampant socialism.'"


You mean this question, let’s start with the initial delay in going into lockdown to allow the Liverpool game and the racing to go ahead. It is now admitted that this caused many unnecessary deaths, then we have the wheeze of transferring patients without having a test from hospitals to care homes. This was confirmed to have increased the number of unnecessary deaths.
I could go on regarding testing, the track and trace app and face coverings.
I now wait your answer to my question or like IR80 can you not list what comrade Johnson did to reduce the number of unnecessary deaths.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Who said suffocate just shut the door because clearly he does not possess the brains to work out how to extract himself without first checking with Cummins. I wonder how many families of the 64,000 who have died wished it was not Johnson’s government in charge.
I guess you should be glad Johnson has only one more PMQ’s to attend for him to be completely owned by Starmer, I particularly like his goldfish look when Starmer shows him to be lying again. Why does he also insist on looking around for help because most of the Conservatives appear to have their heads in their hands in embarrassment.
It is clear that Starmer does not possess the same insecurities and if Johnson follows his usual modus operandi he will ignore the final question and just go on a pre prepared rant blaming the unions for school closures.'"


You just did.
Seeing that "you know" he doesn't possess the brains to work out how to extract himself.
I wonder how many families wish Tony Blair hadn't lied to the house.
It doesn't matter how many times you think Starmer "owned him" - He's just the Leader of a very poor opposition party,such a poor party that the public elected a party led by a man in a fridge!
The Conservatives have their heads in their hands so nobody can see them laughing at the Opposition party.
Im sure Boris often ignores the final question as he doesn't see any point wasting his breath giving an answer to the leader of a party that couldn't even hold on to its "heartland seats" - Was it 87 years since Wakefield returned a Conservative MP ??
Get over yourself,all this bitterness will just eat you up!!!

Its actually quite funny,every time Boris or a Conservative farts,you come on here with Comrade Wilzay bitching and moaning,time to accept the truth,Labour are a failing party,with failed ideologies,dwindling support and are little more than an irritant to Boris.

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I see the Brain Squad are out in force tonight.

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You may use more words but I note that you still do not answer how the actions taken by Johnson to deal with the pandemic have reduced the number of excess deaths.
With regards PMQ’s Johnson is so incapable of thinking for himself that he still carried on with his pre prepared brief joke. The problem is that Starmer’s final question related to meeting those families of the NHS staff who had died and all Johnson could do was make a joke.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.'"


If we want the latest pharma especially for cancer treatment they come from the US - these drugs cost billions to develop - so you either deny patients the potentially life-extending drugs or you pay the lowest price you can negotiate. Are you suggesting that we will deliberately buy off patent generic drugs at a higher price from the US - seriously?

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You may use more words but I note that you still do not answer how the actions taken by Johnson to deal with the pandemic have reduced the number of excess deaths.
With regards PMQ’s Johnson is so incapable of thinking for himself that he still carried on with his pre prepared brief joke. The problem is that Starmer’s final question related to meeting those families of the NHS staff who had died and all Johnson could do was make a joke.'"


I agree he hasn't come out of this pandemic with any credit but it is impossible to calculate the additional deaths if there has been any due to his actions.

Don't forget all patients discharged to care homes were done so on clinical grounds decisions that were made by trained doctors. This might have been due to pressure to protect the capability of the NHS?

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You mean this question, let’s start with the initial delay in going into lockdown to allow the Liverpool game and the racing to go ahead. It is now admitted that this caused many unnecessary deaths, then we have the wheeze of transferring patients without having a test from hospitals to care homes. This was confirmed to have increased the number of unnecessary deaths.
I could go on regarding testing, the track and trace app and face coverings.
I now wait your answer to my question or like IR80 can you not list what comrade Johnson did to reduce the number of unnecessary deaths.'"

He followed the advice at the time, he didntn't have the luxury of a crystal ball to show him the hindsight that you are pathetically trying to use to judge him. But that is how you roll, it comes from limited intelligence and a gigantic chip on your shoulder.

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Quote: IR80 "He followed the advice at the time, he didntn't have the luxury of a crystal ball to show him the hindsight that you are pathetically trying to use to judge him. But that is how you roll, it comes from limited intelligence and a gigantic chip on your shoulder.'"

That chip on his shoulder with limited intelligence is called Tovarisch wilsay icon_lol.gif

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Quote: IR80 "a crystal ball to show him the hindsight'"


Nailed on that you'd be one of the 'hindsight' apologists.

To say you're one of those who claims to 'think for himself', you don't do much of it.

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Quote: King Street Cat "Nailed on that you'd be one of the 'hindsight' apologists.

To say you're one of those who claims to 'think for himself', you don't do much of it.'"

and I could have predicted, without a crystal ball, that you'd have nothing of use to say.

rlany thoughts on the wonderful Labour Party, shall i start a thread, 'Why does Labour hate Jews'?rl

Ultimately we can all say, with the benefit of hindsight, what would have been done differently, but that achieves nothing. Trying to score political points in the midst of a global endemic virus is typical of the left wing, nothing to actually contribute, just yelping from the sidelines whilst the ELECTED GOVERNMENT gets on with it, it is as predictable as it is pathetic.

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Quote: IR80 "shall i start a thread, 'Why does Labour hate Jews'?'"


Feel free to do so. You can tell us all about it, as you seem to be the expert around here.

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Quote: King Street Cat "Feel free to do so. You can tell us all about it, as you seem to be the expert around here.'"

so, nothing meaningful or useful to say, at least you are consistent.

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We all look forward to the islamaphobia report, oh wait he changed his mind, another promise broken. What about the report on Patel oh wait they move the chair because she would not buckle under the pressure to change it. What about the head of the nurses she could no longer appear on the daily press briefing because she would back that what Cummins did was acceptable.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "We all look forward to the islamaphobia report, oh wait he changed his mind, another promise broken. What about the report on Patel oh wait they move the chair because she would not buckle under the pressure to change it. What about the head of the nurses she could no longer appear on the daily press briefing because she would back that what Cummins did was acceptable.'"

Just more yelping, bet you have a sore throat...!

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Let me guess, did you vote for Brexit? Because that’s another thing the Tories are cocking up!

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