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The brain dead cesspittery of these morons who have attached themselves to the Tory party and their football supporter style political support are a constant reminder why I can't ever imagine being able to vote for the party again.

It's all about identity politics with them.

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Quote: Steph Curry "Sorry. My bad. It was the Labour leader who decided not to prosecute anyone for murdering an innocent man.

My bad'"


And I forgot to add. The 3 thousand or so uk residents who support Labour actually want this guy to be prime minister.

Lmao ok

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The brain dead cesspittery of these morons who have attached themselves to the Tory party and their football supporter style political support are a constant reminder why I can't ever imagine being able to vote for the party again.

It's all about identity politics with them.'"


Lmao. It was Labour who invited “football supporting style political support” to Downing Street back in the day to look cool. Aka Noel Gallagher for one.

Jesus Labour supporter are proper thick lmao. They have no idea what they are talking about lmao. Which is why you have no chance of winning an election. Ever.

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Tell me how many officers have been prosecuted over the years, just in case Starmer was the only one who didn’t. I would also point out and I don’t know why I am but being the head of the CPS does not mean you decide on the merits of every prosecution. I doubt anyone arrested for shoplifting would have their case referred to the head of the CPS to decide if to prosecute. I suppose with your superior brain you knew Saville was a paedophile in 2009.

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Quote: Steph Curry "Lmao. It was Labour who invited “football supporting style political support” to Downing Street back in the day to look cool. Aka Noel Gallagher for one.

Jesus Labour supporter are proper thick lmao. They have no idea what they are talking about lmao. Which is why you have no chance of winning an election. Ever.'"

Why are you using "you"? I've voted Tory three times as often as Labour in my life and am a member of another party entirely. But the levels of toxic idiocy people like you bring to this are tainting the party almost irreparably for intelligent people and younger voters.

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Quote: Steph Curry "Wasn’t kier starmer the guy who also approved of the killing of that innocent Brazilian guy on the train?'"


You really are desperate, aren't you? Are you upset because your precious Bozo is under pressure? Are you worried that the next lie you're going to forgive him for could be [ireally[/i serious?

Anyone wanting to understand why the Tories are so far ahead in the polls should look at your posts.

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Quote: King Street Cat "You really are desperate, aren't you? Are you upset because your precious Bozo is under pressure? Are you worried that the next lie you're going to forgive him for could be [ireally[/i serious?

Anyone wanting to understand why the Tories are so far ahead in the polls should look at your posts.'"

TBF they are ahead in the polls due to an incompetent opposition. Starmer is focusing on trivia and cheap point scoring instead of the things that matter.

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Quote: wotsupcas "TBF they are ahead in the polls due to an incompetent opposition. Starmer is focusing on trivia and cheap point scoring instead of the things that matter.'"


In all honesty, a lot of the Conservative voters I encounter seem to be up for an autocratic UK.

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Quote: Steph Curry "Kier starmer! That was it. He was made head of CPS in 2008 and the decision not to prosecute was made in 2009 so yes, he was the head.

Not like a Labour supporter to lie lmao'"


Nonsense
Everybody knows it was ‘ Pressure from the Tory Palace.”

Just remind me who Jim was fixing it for in there

Kobe Bryant’s widow must be so relieved you didn’t violate his name with your choice of nik, lmfao icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: King Street Cat "You really are desperate, aren't you? Are you upset because your precious Bozo is under pressure? Are you worried that the next lie you're going to forgive him for could be [ireally[/i serious?

Anyone wanting to understand why the Tories are so far ahead in the polls should look at your posts.'"


I think most people would acknowledge that Johnson is unfit for office and it will only be a question of time before one of his errors is fatal.

Surely Labour have to offer more of an opposition - they don't appear to be offering anything? The woke agenda has overtaken the party to such a degree that all its guts have evaporated.

IMHO that is the reason Labour are showing so badly - they have no balls or any appetite for a dust up - too busy down on one knee and protecting males who like wearing dresses

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Tell me how many officers have been prosecuted over the years, just in case Starmer was the only one who didn’t. I would also point out and I don’t know why I am but being the head of the CPS does not mean you decide on the merits of every prosecution. I doubt anyone arrested for shoplifting would have their case referred to the head of the CPS to decide if to prosecute. I suppose with your superior brain you knew Saville was a paedophile in 2009.'"


I would agree and along with Nasir he did some great work at the CPS. The Met police seem to be untouchable. If you read Nasir's book you can see how tough it is to get a conviction even in what seems to be a clear cut case.

Look at what happens when we try to extradite undesirables - there will always be a lefty human rights lawyer will to defend the indefensible and the laws have loopholes that are being exploited so that dangerous criminals are allowed to remain here

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Quote: Ovavoo "Ooh eck. Don't think I mentioned anything about legitimacy but since you have I would say, that no party should have a majority in parliament with anything less than 51% of the vote.

I was in fact, being disingenuous when I quoted 43%. If i remember correctly, 30% vote rightish and around 30% vote leftish and would never vote for tother side no matter what. The floating vote are swayed by many things but imo, popularity and the party leaders tv appeal plus, whatever the cause of the day is, are playing a far more important part than was evident in past elections.'"


As no party will ever get >50% what are you suggesting no seats just a straight party vote and the parties just appoint the representatives they want in parliament. How do you determine who is in power - the party that cobble together 51% in which case the MPs from Scotland are the king makers and very likely will control what goes on?

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I think most people would acknowledge that Johnson is unfit for office and it will only be a question of time before one of his errors is fatal.

Surely Labour have to offer more of an opposition - they don't appear to be offering anything? The woke agenda has overtaken the party to such a degree that all its guts have evaporated.

IMHO that is the reason Labour are showing so badly - they have no balls or any appetite for a dust up - too busy down on one knee and protecting males who like wearing dresses'"


My hope is that Labour is pacing itself. The next general election is not until 2024. By then, some of the bigger hitters will hopefully leave their select committee roles and return to the front bench.

I’m much more interested in economic politics, so I hope to see it re-emphasised. But nationalist identity politics has been the basis of the Johnson takeover over the Conservative party, and Labour does need to reflect on how to respond. How much new support the Tories carry forward after he goes will be interesting.

Many price in the lying [ito other people[/i with Johnson, but a lot (weirdly) don’t think he’ll lie to them. Whether it is voters, wives, advisors or unionists. But when they realise they’ve been had they turn. While they’re bought in, they can ignore the callousness, snobbery and corruption showing through the holes in his bumbling bonhomie act - so I don’t expect the ‘let the bodies pile high’ or ‘John Lewis nightmare’ or ‘VIP contracting lane’ stuff to cut through... yet.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "As no party will ever get >50% what are you suggesting no seats just a straight party vote and the parties just appoint the representatives they want in parliament. How do you determine who is in power - the party that cobble together 51% in which case the MPs from Scotland are the king makers and very likely will control what goes on?'"


The weakness of proportional representation is, of course, the disproportionate power minor parties can have. For me the fear is Farage rather than the SNP - but it is the same principle. And to be fair, it was kind of ridiculous that Paul Nuttal’s UKIP returned no MPs in 2017 despite getting more than twice as many votes as the DUP, for example. A relief, but still an oddity of the system.

Maybe a broader spectrum of political representation would prevent the current widespread political alienation we seem to have now? Maybe, I don’t know. There’d be a fragmentation, and it’d be uncomfortable with some of the new parties we’d see.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "The woke agenda has overtaken the party to such a degree that all its guts have evaporated.

IMHO that is the reason Labour are showing so badly - they have no balls or any appetite for a dust up - too busy down on one knee and protecting males who like wearing dresses'"

I know we've said it before but what a weird world you seem to live in where you think this stuff is either true or important - and what dangerously hard right media you must be consuming to have led you down this rabbit warren.

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Wakefield
 Sat 12th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R6
06:00
Cronulla
v
Manly
08:30
Souths
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Parramatta
v
Canberra
       Championship 2025-R6
17:00
LondonB
v
Batley
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
17:30
Warrington
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R6
18:00
Sheffield
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
 Sun 13th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R6
05:00
Melbourne
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Newcastle
v
Wests
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Catalans
       Championship 2025-R6
15:00
Hunslet
v
Halifax
15:00
Oldham
v
Featherstone
15:00
Widnes
v
Barrow
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
 Thu 17th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
10:50
Manly
v
St.George
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Wakefield
v
Castleford
 Fri 18th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
07:05
Canterbury
v
Souths
11:00
Dolphins
v
Melbourne
       League One 2025-R6
14:00
Midlands
v
Crusaders
       Championship 2025-R7
15:00
Barrow
v
LondonB
15:00
Batley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Doncaster
v
Sheffield
15:00
Featherstone
v
York
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Widnes
v
Oldham
       League One 2025-R6
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Newcastle
15:00
Rochdale
v
Swinton
15:00
Workington
v
Whitehaven
18:30
Keighley
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
 Sat 19th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
Brisbane
10:35
Sydney
v
Penrith
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
20:00
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 20th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
05:00
Gold Coast
v
Canberra
07:05
Newcastle
v
Cronulla
 Mon 21st Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
07:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
 Thu 24th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
10:50
Brisbane
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
07:00
Sydney
v
St.George
09:05
NZ Warriors
v
Newcastle
11:10
Melbourne
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Gold Coast
10:35
Penrith
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R8
18:00
Featherstone
v
Toulouse
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
05:00
Canberra
v
Dolphins
07:05
Wests
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R7
13:00
Cornwall
v
Keighley
14:30
Crusaders
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R8
15:00
Barrow
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
LondonB
15:00
Oldham
v
Bradford
15:00
Sheffield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R7
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Rochdale
15:00
Newcastle
v
Goole V
15:00
Workington
v
Swinton
 Fri 2nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
09:00
Cronulla
v
Parramatta
11:05
Sydney
v
Dolphins
       League One 2025-R8
20:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
06:00
Souths
v
Newcastle
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
NQL Cowboys
10:45
Wests
v
St.George
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Rochdale
v
Goole V
       Championship 2025-R9
17:00
LondonB
v
York
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R9
18:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
04:50
Gold Coast
v
Canterbury
07:05
Penrith
v
Brisbane
09:25
Melbourne
v
Canberra
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
       League One 2025-R8
13:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
       Championship 2025-R9
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Sheffield
15:00
Doncaster
v
Oldham
15:00
Hunslet
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Swinton
v
Crusaders
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 8th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
10:50
Parramatta
v
Dolphins
 Fri 9th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
09:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
11:00
Souths
v
Brisbane
 Sat 10th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
06:00
Canberra
v
Canterbury
08:30
St.George
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Penrith
       Championship 2025-R10
17:00
Oldham
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
05:00
Melbourne
v
Wests
07:05
Manly
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R9
14:30
Crusaders
v
Newcastle
       Championship 2025-R10
15:00
Batley
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Doncaster
15:00
LondonB
v
Sheffield
15:00
Widnes
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Hunslet
       League One 2025-R9
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Cornwall
15:00
Keighley
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Midlands
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
09:00
Newcastle
v
Parramatta
11:00
Canterbury
v
Sydney
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
06:00
Dolphins
v
NZ Warriors
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Manly
10:35
Cronulla
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
05:00
Brisbane
v
St.George
07:05
Canberra
v
Gold Coast
09:15
Wests
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
10:50
Canterbury
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
11:00
Parramatta
v
Manly
       Championship 2025-R11
19:30
Sheffield
v
Hunslet
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
08:30
Penrith
v
Newcastle
10:35
Sydney
v
Cronulla
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R11
18:00
Toulouse
v
Barrow
 Sun 25th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
07:05
NZ Warriors
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R11
15:00
Bradford
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Batley
15:00
Oldham
v
Halifax
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
11:00
St.George
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
06:00
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Wests
10:35
Manly
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R12
17:00
LondonB
v
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R12
18:00
Batley
v
Toulouse
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
05:00
Souths
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Penrith
v
Parramatta
09:15
Sydney
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       Championship 2025-R12
15:00
Barrow
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Hunslet
v
Oldham
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
Newcastle
v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Thu 5th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
10:50
Newcastle
v
Manly
 Fri 6th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
09:00
Melbourne
v
NQL Cowboys
11:00
Dolphins
v
St.George
 Sat 7th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
07:00
Canterbury
v
Parramatta
08:30
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
Brisbane
v
Gold Coast
 Sun 8th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
05:00
Canberra
v
Souths
07:05
Wests
v
Penrith
 Thu 12th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
10:50
Cronulla
v
St.George
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
11:00
Gold Coast
v
Manly
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
08:30
Newcastle
v
Sydney
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
07:05
Souths
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2025-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Sheffield
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Featherstone
v
Hunslet
15:00
Widnes
v
Halifax
15:00
Toulouse
v
LondonB
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
 Thu 19th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
Castleford
v
Hull KR
 Fri 20th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R16
11:00
Wests
v
Canberra
       Championship 2025-R14
19:45
Bradford
v
Batley
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
St.Helens
v
Leeds
20:00
Wakefield
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R14
20:00
Featherstone
v
Halifax
 Sat 21st Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R16
06:00
NZ Warriors
v
Penrith
08:30
Dolphins
v
Newcastle
10:35
Souths
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
15:00
Warrington
v
Huddersfield
17:30
Catalans
v
Leigh
       Championship 2025-R14
18:00
Toulouse
v
Oldham
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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