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Headlines from this (for 12/13)

So they're wonderful for giving money to charities from staff & customer funding and then they avoid paying stamp duty on land purchases? Is that how it works? Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?

I also notice that they swing between fixed sums (£13m) and percentages (1% of pre-tax profit).

If they are so transparent and benevolent, then why the need for Cheshunt Properties LLP? or other shadow subsidiaries in Luxembourg, BVI etc?

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Quote: cod'ead "So they're wonderful for giving money to charities from staff & customer funding and then they avoid paying stamp duty on land purchases? Is that how it works? Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?'"

Up to you, if that's what you want to do.

Quote: cod'ead "I also notice that they swing between fixed sums (£13m) and percentages (1% of pre-tax profit).'"

The fixed sum was an amount that staff and employees raised via fundraising activities - the target was (I think) £10m. The 1% of pre-tax profit was a donation, and something quite different.

Quote: cod'ead "If they are so transparent and benevolent, then why the need for Cheshunt Properties LLP? or other shadow subsidiaries in Luxembourg, BVI etc?'"
I didn't say they were transparent, I merely pointed out that, like with most things, there's always a different point of view. Regarding benevolence, I suppose it's a very subjective one to answer - I, personally, believe that the fundraising effort was great (it certainly brought many staff and customers together, and some friends / colleagues had fantastic experiences raising money whilst climbing to Mt Everest base camp / walking the Inca trail / etc). And to donate £74m, irrespective of what the annual profit was, should be applauded. But, as I say, that's my subjective opinion.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "Cod’ead, I’m going to go all corporate on you again here!
What has any of that got to do with the example of Walkers under the ownership of Pepsico?

Do you consider the mechanisms outlined regarding how Pepsico have reduced the corporation tax paid by Walkers in the UK to (presumably) zero as they are now making a loss acceptable?

It is after all a legal way to increase profit and return for shareholders so does that trump all else and if it does, doesn't that mean the system is simply broken?

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One of my favourites is the way some large manufacturers advertise their products by saying that, if you buy them, they'll donate a penny to charidee.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.

Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid

Headlines from this (for 12/13)

But they treat their shop floor staff like crap (allegedly). Why is that if they are such a great company?

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And they're buggers for trying to wheedle out of honouring their 'double the difference' pledge when they mess up their pricing.

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Quote: Th'ump "And they're buggers for trying to wheedle out of honouring their 'double the difference' pledge when they mess up their pricing.'"


Sadly all their T&C's say errors and omissions excepted (E&OE).

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Quote: cod'ead "Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?
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Erm, you can can't you?

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I was thinking more along the lines of an amount I felt appropriate too. And instead of paying VED and council tax, I'll simply fill in a couple of potholes

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Quote: cod'ead "I was thinking more along the lines of an amount I felt appropriate too. And instead of paying VED and council tax, I'll simply fill in a couple of potholes'"

Nah, just get your staff and customers to do it in their own time ... then you just stick your logo on it and pretend you're socially responsible.

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rlEnjoy your raspberriesrl

They're still at it and refusing to accept any blame.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.

Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid

Headlines from this (for 12/13)

Who contributes to the charity of the year? Is it just low-paid staff and customers or do Tesco put their hands in their pockets? If so to what extent?

Ethically, IMO, Tesco is non-league.

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Quote: cod'ead "rlEnjoy your raspberriesrl

They're still at it and refusing to accept any blame.'"


Although that is a year old I doubt much has changed, besides the 10% price increase...

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Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
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Hull KR-Castleford
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Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
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Huddersfield-Warrington
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Hull FC-Wigan
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Hull FC-Leigh
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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
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