"Why do secularists feel threatened by religious belief?" © SaintsFan

That certainly offers some hope that Intelligent Design will be kept out of free schools science classes. However, I wouldn't put it beyond creationist pressure groups trying to have the same strengths and weaknesses of evolution arguments inserted in the science curriculum that similar groups in America do.



Quite how the catholic church can be deemed fit and proper to run a school is beyond me. Has it not been clearly shown that when the poop hits the fan, they put their own reputation before all other considerations.

I wouldn't trust them to run a bath.

Indeed. It's but a battle in the greater war.



Indeed.



I like that. I may have to borrow it.

rlIt seems that the CofE want all the benefits of establishment, but none of the responsibilities.rl

Frankly, I don't think the CofE knows what it wants.
It seems unable to resolve any issue with anything other than a wobbly fudge.

But I know what I want ... Disestablishment NOW !

For anyone who's interested

So, church schools are not quite as inclusive as they'd have us believe then?

rlChurch schools shun poorest pupilsrl

You're a socialist who lives with a socialist and you DON'T know the answer to this question?

I thought I'd resurect this thread rather than start a new one.

rlA story about the ****ing Catholic Church trying to indoctrinate childrenrl

My girlfriend attended catholic high school, and is still at sixth form there (sixth form is officially completely church free, but isn't really as it's all the same staff and building). She's not Catholic as, I believe, every religious school has to let a few students of different faiths in. The way she was spoken to/treat by the Catholic teachers was atrocious, she was heckled in RE for openly admitting being an atheist, was glared at by students and staff alike when she had to approach the front at the termly mass with a hand across her shoulder to show she wasn't baptised(or something like that). Every science lesson also ended with "scientists say this but we know if they are right, God made it happen" The way they treat kids in general isn't good either, results driven with no regard for a childs happiness. The motto of a catholic school on The Simpsons comes to mind; "Jesus suffered for our sins, now it's your turn".

All in all, I don't agree with religion in the classroom as it usually attempts to blur or blatantly disregard the truth. I haven't read the whole thread but I did read a few of the linked articles on the first page. speaking as a college student studying physics and chemistry, that one by the head of a science department is genuinely scary. Did he buy his degree online?

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Richly deserved it is, too.

Hateful sh¡ts.

So now the police are on to them their looking at different ways to children?

Join the campaign to keep the bishops away from a reformed HoL

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rlThe Mash's view of the bender's petitionrl