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Quote: Cronus "It's clearly beyond him. I'll leave him in his ignorance.'"


The majority agree with me, best to leave us all in our ignorance.

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Quote: Ajw71 "A (Shooting of Mark Duggan)

C (Riot)

Take away A, and C doesn't happenn.

Ie, No shooting, no riot.'"


So its all Mark Duggans mothers fault, if she hadnt got pregnant all those years ago , there wouldnt have been any riots

All sorted

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I did mention a few pages back that he was a nutter.

Didn't expect him to demonstrate it so aptly though.

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Quote: Ajw71 "A (Shooting of Mark Duggan)

C (Riot)

Take away A, and C doesn't happenn.

Ie, No shooting, no riot.'"

C can still happen without A.
C could depend on B.
C could happen independently of both A and B.
They are all possibilities.
Would you accept that just from a mathematical point of view (or logical point of view)?
If you accept that, you can't definitely say A caused C.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "I did mention a few pages back that he was a nutter.

Didn't expect him to demonstrate it so aptly though.'"


Love how when people are losing an argument on this messageboard they immediately resort to dishing out abuse.

It's funny because it seems like it's the mods who do it most often, aren't they the ones supposed to be enforcing the rules?

I bet if I was to start dishing it out in response then I would be first to get banned too.

I've already had a 'warning' off a moderator for him abusing me?!

If you don't agree with my points, debate it out. Don't just start dishing out abuse. It really is quite immature that you can't construct an argument without resorting to abuse.

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There is a difference between debating and repeating your (badly thought out) point until people are sick of it. Several posters have pointed out the flaw in your pointg yet you still think you are right.

Oh and the addy you need is admin@rlfans.com.
There is a difference between debating and repeating your (badly thought out) point until people are sick of it. Several posters have pointed out the flaw in your pointg yet you still think you are right.

Oh and the addy you need is admin@rlfans.com.


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Quote: Ajw71 "Love how when people are losing an argument on this messageboard they immediately resort to dishing out abuse.

It's funny because it seems like it's the mods who do it most often, aren't they the ones supposed to be enforcing the rules?

I bet if I was to start dishing it out in response then I would be first to get banned too.

I've already had a 'warning' off a moderator for him abusing me?!

If you don't agree with my points, debate it out. Don't just start dishing out abuse. It really is quite immature that you can't construct an argument without resorting to abuse.'"

The only thing true in your argument is that A happened first.
If you were the person charged with coming up with the cause/s of the riots (assuming you were capable of doing that job) then I think that you would be more open to the possibilities and not just dive into what happened first as the cause (bad as it was).

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Quote: Big Graeme "There is a difference between debating and repeating your (badly thought out) point until people are sick of it. Several posters have pointed out the flaw in your pointg yet you still think you are right.

Oh and the addy you need is
Thank you.

If you had read the thread, you will see that numerous people have agreed with my viewpoints.

If people are sick of the debate then don't visit the thread any more, I don't force people to read my posts and I'm not forced to read others posts.

What I don't do is dish out abuse for no apparent reason. I'm a grown up.
Quote: Big Graeme "There is a difference between debating and repeating your (badly thought out) point until people are sick of it. Several posters have pointed out the flaw in your pointg yet you still think you are right.

Oh and the addy you need is
Thank you.

If you had read the thread, you will see that numerous people have agreed with my viewpoints.

If people are sick of the debate then don't visit the thread any more, I don't force people to read my posts and I'm not forced to read others posts.

What I don't do is dish out abuse for no apparent reason. I'm a grown up.


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Quote: Ajw71 "numerous people have agreed with my viewpoints.'"


Erm, no they haven't, yet again your comprehension is lacking.

Quote: Ajw71 " I'm a grown up.'"


Act like it then.

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Quote: Big Graeme "Erm, no they haven't, yet again your comprehension is lacking.

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Erm yes they have. 'World of Redboy' and 'Smokey TA' I think.

Quote: Big Graeme "

Act like it then.'"


You disagreed with my opinion so you dished out abuse.

Who is the one acting like a child?

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Quote: Ajw71 "Erm yes they have. 'World of Redboy' and 'Smokey TA' I think.'"


Much as I would love to think the various personalities of Smokey count as numerous, two agreeing with you hardly qualifies and I'd start to worry if WoR agrees with me too.

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Quote: Big Graeme "Much as I would love to think the various personalities of Smokey count as numerous, two agreeing with you hardly qualifies and I'd start to worry if WoR agrees with me too.'"


A few agreed with me and a few disagreed, it's called debate.

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Quote: Ajw71 "

If you don't agree with my points, debate it out. '"


I'd love to.

But you won't, simply repeating the same crackpot standpoint is not debate, its Violet Elizabeth Bott foot stomping of the highest order, akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "La-la-la-la" when the grown ups talk.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "I'd love to.

But you won't, simply repeating the same crackpot standpoint is not debate, its Violet Elizabeth Bott foot stomping of the highest order, akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "La-la-la-la" when the grown ups talk.'"


Erm that's all the people who disagree with me do.

But it's ok for them to do that isn't it, if you agree with them?

Antoher one who talks about grown ups and then resorts to abuse the first chance he gets. How ironic.

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I tried to look at a timeline of the whole riots, and this is what I found. rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14436499rl Going on what what they've written, the riots in other parts of the country were a reaction to how the police had handled the riot in Tottenham. But without the death of Mark duggan, there would have been no protest march to the Police station or the rumour of a woman being attacked by police, or people setting fire to cars close to the police station and it kicking off from there.

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 Sat 12th Apr 2025
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Hull FC
20:00
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Leigh
 Sun 13th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R6
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Catalans
 Thu 17th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Wakefield
v
Castleford
 Fri 18th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
 Sat 19th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
20:00
Catalans
v
Salford
 Thu 24th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
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15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
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17:30
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SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
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20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
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SL
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St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
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