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| Is there any connection between the CAP and the fact that Cameron is the love child of a Cabbage Patch Kid?
I think we should be told.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "rlhttps://www.openeurope.org.uk/media-centre/pressrelease.aspx?pressreleaseid
"[i- In 2005, Tony Blair agreed to give away a portion of the UK rebate in return for reform of the Common Agricultural Policy, which never materialised. The effects of that decision are only now being felt as the cut to the rebate is being fully phased in. As a result, the UK's net contribution to the EU is expected to rise from £6.4bn in 2009-10 to £10.3bn in 2014-15[4].
- Over a ten year period from 2004-5 to 2014-15, the UK's net contribution will have risen from £3.9bn[5] to £10.3bn, a 260% increase. Any further reduction to the UK rebate would see the UK's net contribution rise to yet more unacceptable levels[/i."'"
A couple of other points about those figures...
The 20% reduction in our rebate runs out in 2013, so I'm not sure how he can be blamed for rises in 2014 and beyond.
These figures are forecasts. The EU budget beyond 2013 hasn't even been negotiated yet.
Using the net transfer is slightly misleading since ALL countries in the EU have contributed increasing amounts to the EU budget over that period, so only a proportion of the increase in our net contribution is attributable to the deal that Blair did. They also fail to mention that the deal is responsible in part for the proportion of the budget spent on the cap dropping from close to 80% down to roughly 40% or thereabouts. |
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| Quote: Kosh "
A couple of other points about those figures...
The 20% reduction in our rebate runs out in 2013, so I'm not sure how he can be blamed for rises in 2014 and beyond.
These figures are forecasts. The EU budget beyond 2013 hasn't even been negotiated yet.
Using the net transfer is slightly misleading since ALL countries in the EU have contributed increasing amounts to the EU budget over that period, so only a proportion of the increase in our net contribution is attributable to the deal that Blair did. They also fail to mention that the deal is responsible in part for the proportion of the budget spent on the cap dropping from close to 80% down to roughly 40% or thereabouts.'"
Euro-sceptic think tank (independent my backside) twists figures to suit their agenda shock! |
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Cameron isn't fit to lace Blair's shoes on the diplomacy front. Or the shoes of any other Prime Minister in my lifetime come to that. He's a numpty.'"
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So Gordon " Don't panic brown" is a testament to this is he? 
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| Quote: cod'ead "Quote: cod'ead "
How those extra billions would be handy right now. ![]()
Compared to Gideon "look to Ireland for an example of how it should be done" Osborne and David "we're all in it together" Cameron, yes. Those two would make Pavlov's dogs look statesmanlike
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| Quote: cod'ead "
Why not just accept the fact that Cameron has been caught with his pants round his ankles and stop introducing straw men that bear no relevance to the matter in question?'"
In your opinion.
The opinion of of the electorate is somewhat different. |
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| Quote: Wnidyone2012 "So Gordon " Don't panic brown" is a testament to this is he? ![]()
Brown was never PM material IMO. Still a better one that Cameron when it comes to diplomacy though.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Quote: Staffs FC "Quotes from an openly Euro-sceptic website don't really constitute proof of anything much. Wikipedia (not a definitive source admittedly) says this
Milliband is doing a limp, ineffective job in opposition.
as the article states: the last few weeks have seen Osborne deliver grim economic news, a public sector strike, a controversial EU veto, and now worsening unemployment figures...and yet its the Tory's that get the boost in the polls.
I bet their will be a big re-think on strategy for Labour, as their current 'tactics' just aren't working.
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| Quote: UllFC "Quote: UllFC "Cameron shoots ahead in the polls.
Milliband is doing a limp, ineffective job in opposition.
as the article states
I guess it balances things out when the worst PM for an age is countered by the worst opposition leader in a similar period. Definitely looks like Labour chose the wrong brother.
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| Quote: Kosh "Definitely looks like Labour chose the wrong brother.'"
Labour shouldn't have even been thinking about those two, they should have been putting all their efforts into persuading Alan Johnson his future lay as leader. |
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